Used to teach at CEDU middle and high school

[shanlea]

Say what you want about Serb, but if you've ever read any posts where he concisely explains his antipathy toward CEDU, you would realize his heart is in the right place.

It's not about whining about what happened to HIM.  It's about the immorality of subjugating minors of an impressionable age to abusive, mind fucking experimental techniques, combined with a mentally repressive atmosphere, fraudulent academics and "therapeutic" tools, the use of coersion to distort reality, and isolating them from any resource that might contradict CEDU's practices.  (Oh, geez, and I forgot about widespread lying to parents and students alike.)  

THIS WAS SYSTEMIC.

It would be easy for someone like Serb, who has his own family and successful business, to think "who the fuck cares about who else gets fucked? I'm all set."  But he chooses NOT to do that.

The truth is that parents have contacted some of us from this site and have opted not to submit to any CEDU style program, and that is the impetus for continuing to write.  

Moreover, not one pro CEDU person has EVER listed specific tools that helped them in the "real world." It's not about whining: it's about dropping too many fucking pesos to be worked over by a bunch of fucked up, unaccredited staff members working out their own bullshit experimenting on us.  And OUR children.

No one's saying if you had some nice memories at CEDU you're a cultist. But even the woman who gets the shit beaten out of her by her husband wouldn't say it's okay because he sent her flowers later.

[former CEDU therapist]

HA HA HA!!! Oh, my GOD!!! I despise CEDU - you can't imagine how much! Geez - have I ever said ANYTHING here that indicated I'm pro-CEDU?!?!?! Geez, Louise. This is funny!

I am a real person. I never was a CEDU employee. I was a therapist for a very brief period and VERY QUICKLY started looking for a job so I could leave that hell hole.

I was FIRED b.c. they thought I was telling parents to pull their kids! I reported CEDU to a personal friend who worked at CPS. I also reported to County of San Bernardino Behavioral Health (they couldn't do anything, but they told me they hated CEDU), and I reported to the sheriff's dept. They could not do anything, either! NO ONE could do ANYTHING if no law was being broken. HOWEVER, there was a deputy who had an ongoing CEDU file.

The hospital "up the hill" - Mountain Hospital - hated CEDU. Loma Linda hated CEDU. Good GOD - what have I ever said here to make you think that?!?! WRITING STYLES??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

That's what Ottawa used to do. She analyzed writing styles and tried to figure out who was whom. Oh, boy - I have to tell you - you gave me a BIG laugh.

I've revealed myself to a couple of people here whom I trust. Oh, this is too funny - sad, but funny.

I even had to ask Ginger to delete some of my posts because I had revealed a lot of what I had seen in my time there - and what I saw was VERY limited because I was not an employee and I wasn't there long. I never, ever went to a Profeet because I knew that would be inappropriate. I posted some things and then Ottawa started talking about printing posts and calling lawyers and I confess - I got nervous. BUT I called the deputy and let him know what was up. He said that she could not hurt me if I was telling the truth. But he's not an attorney - I trust him, but I still was nervous. I have a family I am responsible for.

One of the CEDU victims had a lawsuit going. He posted here giving the attorney's name and inviting people to call. I called the attorney TWICE and left messages - he never called back. I think I just didn't have enough to be of interest to him.

I'm just astonished at this. Don't I get to have some anonymity? Hey, we're all on the same side here. Years later, I still am haunted by what I saw there. I never, ever expected anything like that. I didn't even know what an "emotional growth school" was. When I first got there, it looked just wonderful... as it does to parents, I'm sure. They were scared and felt completey helpless... here were these wonderful and caring people and fresh-faced kids... I completely understand the appeal! I thought it was GREAT

...for a while. And then I saw a staff member being an asshole to a kid. So I spoke with administration about him. They said he was one of their best. I thought it was me - maybe he was having a bad day.

Then I saw another "counselor" being a jerk. I was confused. Then I saw a kid in the dining area "journaling." Only this wasn't any kind of journaling I had ever seen. She was writing about what a bad kid she was. So I asked about this - "well you have to tear them down and then rebuild them." Words from a "counselor" who was ONLY a high school graduate - and then I learned that later she earned her bachelor's at a fake school - a diploma mill. It's called California Coast College. And if you look at the CVs of a lot of CEDU administrators, you'll see that school. Interesting. Gee, I went to a REAL college for 13 years to learn REAL stuff and paid lots and lots of REAL money... little did I know I could have actually earned A LOT more money in my job by getting a mail-order "degree." The administrators and school directors made way more money than I did. Missed out on that one.

Then I was told that I should go to a Profeet. I asked what it was - "It's where you 'get all your dirt out' with the kids." WHAT?!?!?!?! This is VERY inappropriate! Those kids were NOT my therapist! And frankly, I wondered if I did spill my "dirt" I would be accused of dishonesty - I don't HAVE that much dirt. Kids started telling me that if they didn't come up with big stuff, they were accused of lying and holding off. I have forgotten the term they used.

Then I had a kid who was floridly psychotic. I felt he was a danger to himself and to others. He was PSYCHOTIC. The bogus psychiatrist said it might be because of his heart condition. RIGHT. So that's what I reported. I knew that would be of interest. But it's not against the law for a licensed facility to have psychotic kids - it was INAPPROPRIATE for CEDU to have him, but no laws were broken.

Then I had a kid a mild form of autism. But a school director said that he was bulemic. This was a school director with the high school diploma and who had worked as a secretary in a real estate office prior to CEDU. She said, "I can tell he's bulemic because I see it in his eyes and that's the same blank look I saw in the mirror when I was bulemic." I told her that that "blank look" was because he was AUTISTIC!!! They can look weird!!! Again, I'm kicking myself... I could have saved SO MUCH time and money not going to a REAL school. I did not know that real estate secretarial jobs were so good at preparing a person to be an expert diagnostician.

SO - this school director put that kid on bathroom escort after meals. Again, I made phone calls. This was the OPPOSITE of what you should do with someone who has autism. It was torment for that kid. But again - no laws broken. By then, I was ACTIVELY looking for another job.

Yeah, at first it looked sooooo good. Then reality hit. And it hit hard. And here I am, years later, still haunted... wondering how the kids I saw are doing... and that brought me here. And I can't help but think - if I have these feelings so many years later, what must it be like for the kids?

Listen, making reports or making information calls to CPS or any other governing body doesn't guarantee anything at all. I've also reported a person named Barbara Lamb to state licensing. She's a licensed marriage and family therapist (a master's level license) who conducts "therapy" for friggin' SPACE ALIEN ABDUCTINS!!! She's a nut job! I saw her on Penn and Teller's show on Showtime. What a crock! I looked at the website of this idiot and pasted it into an email to her state licensing body. They wrote back and said that if I had not personally been hurt by her, they couldn't do anything! Check it out - you won't believe this. Crop circles and past lives and all manner of rubbish - she is HURTING people. And the state can do NOTHING: http://www.blambms.com

The only reason for anyone here to be unhappy with me is if that person is a CEDUite. I'm just amazed that anyone would wonder...

On 2005-12-24 13:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I can't make up my mind.



I've heard it said that he (or she) is not a real person, just a playful or sarcastic identity taken on by someone else who posts here.  



And it's true, a lot of the stock phrases and ways of speaking in FormerCT's posts do sound like a caricature of a therapist or couselor ("I'm feeling...", "It is what it is.", and so on).  



But also heard it said by someone who worked at CEDU that this is indeed a real ex-employee, the style of writing is pretty identifiable, who did in fact leave under a cloud of disagreement with the CEDU philosophy.  "Not the sharpest tool in the shed, a bit naive, but well meaning" was the description given



So which is true do you think" is Former CEDU therapist a real person in disguise? Or a joke masquerading as a real person?"

[ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2005-12-30 16:28 ][ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2005-12-30 16:31 ]

[Anonymous]

So are you or aren't you a joke?  Is this last post supposed to be a hint (the ranting, the multiple "inappropriates" like somebody mocking "therapist-speak) or are you just like this?

Cuz I've got to say: in some posts you sound like you're sort of overly calm and here you sound manic.

Also about your statement:

"I've also reported a person named Barbara Lamb to state licensing. She's a licensed marriage and family therapist (a master's level license) who conducts "therapy" for friggin' SPACE ALIEN ABDUCTINS!!! She's a nut job! I saw her on Penn and Teller's show on Showtime. What a crock! I looked at the website of this idiot and pasted it into an email to her state licensing body. They wrote back and said that if I had not personally been hurt by her, they couldn't do anything!"  

Sounds like you're saying you make a lot of complaints that nobody else is taking very seriously.

Wonder if that's why you're so nervous about your identity, maybe there's people who think your stability or credibility or judgment out to be looked into, especially if they saw your posts here

[former CEDU therapist]

Okay, I give up. I don't care anymore if you think I'm real. This is absurd.

Yes, I gave an energetic post because I thought it was HILARIOUS that anyone would think I'm not real. I literally laughed out loud - it was hysterically funny to me. My spouse came into my office and asked what was so funny. That's how hard I laughed.

CEDU and Lamb are the only complaints I've made. I was responding to the person who said - more than once - that I should have complained. That person was implying that I would sit by and do nothing. I was illustrating my point. I will complain if I see harm or injustice.

You say I sounded manic. When I post, I usually am more academic. But when I think something is funny, I laugh. Out loud. Sometimes a lot. And I can even misspell words like, "abductions."

[former CEDU therapist]

Is anyone else having trouble with punctuation showing up as Greek characters? I can go back and edit and correct them, but who needs to do that? Anybody having this trouble? Maybe it's my computer.[ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2005-12-30 19:35 ]

[Anonymous]

Listen Bonehead Anon,

It says a lot that you would criticize a therapist for reporting an agency that abuses its influence on children.  

And, for those of you stupid as fuck brainwashed Ceduphiles who think if CEDU truly was fucked up, it would have been shut down long ago: get real. Do "troubled" youths have any credibility when reporting problems? Do parents feel a false sense of security sending their kids to a place that looks like the hills are alive with the sound of music? Do you know how many fucked up, inefficient, incompetent institutions exist?

By the way, FCT, I detected a bit of Ottawa too, though she is far too snooty to use the word "cuz". But it might be just another schmuck who loves CEDU but can't think of a single valid reason why.

[former CEDU therapist]

Thanks! This is so bizarre I can hardly believe it.

I smacks of Ottawa to me - and I'm wondering if that silly "cuz" was intentional... to mislead us. Because the tone of this person is very much like her.

I appreciate your post here. It is the weirdest thing... I can't think of one reason that a person here would have a problem with me, unless it's a CEDU addict. Truly, it was weird - but it gave me one of the best laughs I had all year!

[Jack1963]

I agree - that person is a jerk. In fact, sounds like Ottawa to me, as well. Interesting.

[Anonymous]

greg im guessing your so fucking full of shit it isnt funny stop blaming your guilty feeling on other people greg the shitty english teacher or not your responsible for you own actions such as fucking kids up with your cedu shit asshole.....beeeeeeee accontable oh i forgot i never was taught how to spell thanks a buch who ever you are you cedu fuck...hope ya get bitch slapped///coward

[Anonymous]

I am very interested to know who the supposed Cedu therapist is, considering I myself attended Ascent for eight weeks and then Northwest academy for 6 months before being sent back to Ascent. Maybe I would be able to share some insight as to what this therapist's true sentiments were regarding the issue, if he/she was there at the same time as me. As he/she said, many of these employees were poorly educated, and the majority of the time I found myself the intellectual superior of these people that had complete authority over me. Luckily for me, I was able to manuever myself out of the program well before my intended gruduation date, but i'm sure the majority of my peer group was not so lucky.   All I can say is that I am overjoyed that Cedu has been shut down due to bankruptcy , it was an evil enterprise that capitalized on vulnerable parents and children.

[former CEDU therapist]

I've been through this before - who am I... I guarantee you do not know me. I was there a very short period of time and I never saw Ascent. There was a period when they went through a number of therapists. It was a time of employment turmoil for the therapists - we were not employees of CEDU. I worked for a private practice that used office space there.

I did not see much - but what I saw gave me the creeps. I was very uncomfortable. It felt like watching a cult.

I don't think my identity is really important. I've communicated with other people here who were therapists. They also do not want to reveal their identity.

I am certain you do not know me. Frankly, I wonder if the people who did know me would even remember me. It was a long time ago and for a short period of time. I have found a couple of people who knew me. The reason I came to these boards is that I still can't shake the bad feeling I have remembering CEDU. And I just can't help but wonder how is was for the kids. Terrible, I assume. I was not a part of CEDU, I was not an employee, and I did not participate in any of the "groups" or functions there. I was impressed with the level of ignorance among staff - and their certainty that they knew everything. It was highly frustrating.

[Anonymous]

So if you're a real person and not a front for one of the other fornits rats how come you keep using the same stock phrases "we were not employess"," I did not see much", many others as any one can find by looking at your posts. Like you're salvaging phrases from previous posts.

Suspicious.  I always thought that shrinks were more verbal, better writers.  "Frankly" (another one of your favs) your posts always sound like somebody trying to do a satire of psychologists.

Bryan is that you, come on 'fess up boy, enough with the joke.

[Son Of Serbia]

On 2006-01-04 15:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So if you're a real person and not a front for one of the other fornits rats how come you keep using the same stock phrases "we were not employess"," I did not see much", many others as any one can find by looking at your posts. Like you're salvaging phrases from previous posts.



Suspicious.  I always thought that shrinks were more verbal, better writers.  "Frankly" (another one of your favs) your posts always sound like somebody trying to do a satire of psychologists.



Bryan is that you, come on 'fess up boy, enough with the joke. "

Well, well, well, the anonymous coward with no dick, who worships the cedu cult, and lusts after Anne Hall, has returned to his crusade!  Where've you been pussy?  You haven't posted here since Shanlea totally kicked your ass on this forum a few months back.

I see that you're back to telling lies and conspiracy theories about people.  Before
you get too wrapped up in your latest ether induced, schizophrenic fantasy, I feel obliged to inform you that FCT is NOT Bryan, but he IS  most likely the real deal.

Sorry to spoil your fun, again!


.[ This Message was edited by: Son Of Serbia on 2006-01-05 10:19 ]

[former CEDU therapist]

Thank you, Serb. I'm sick of this guy. I thought you might gallop in.

[Anonymous]

"gallop in"??? Intriguing.

Y'know the Serbster has long been rumored on this site to have a very, very special relationship with Bryan.

And now here comes the Serb.

You might even say "galloping" in, (or perhaps "prancing") to help the Former(only-there-for-a-very-short-time-never-an-employee-oh-so-scared-of-CEDU-but-still- obsessed) CEDU Therapist???

Hey Bryan, cut the crap: are you really the CeduTherapist dude (or female?
 :cry2: