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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2005, 08:16:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-10 17:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Excellent taste you have! I love the Sam Adams summer-ale on a hot July afternoon, right after doing some yardwork, playing with kids, or taking a refreshing dip in the pool!~! Enjoy Lars ::burger:: "
Meant to say "playing WITH my kids :smile:
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2005, 08:21:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-10 17:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Excellent taste you have! I love the Sam Adams summer-ale on a hot July afternoon, right after doing some yardwork, playing with kids, or taking a refreshing dip in the pool!~! Enjoy Lars ::bandit::  Anyways, take care.
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2005, 08:24:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-10 17:21:00, Lars wrote:

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On 2005-12-10 17:11:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Excellent taste you have! I love the Sam Adams summer-ale on a hot July afternoon, right after doing some yardwork, playing with kids, or taking a refreshing dip in the pool!~! Enjoy Lars ::bandit::  Anyways, take care."
Yup, Im an east coaster, but I vacation on the west coast (Napa Valley) and Mexico as well, Ill keep that one in mind! Take it easy Lars my Hyde brother, enjoy the rest of the weekend ( Whats left of it anyway!) :tup:
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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2005, 10:31:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-10 15:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"For anyone who is interested, I found the James Traub article referred to above - ironically, the site STARTS with a typical defensive response from Joe Gauld.....



Click on http://www.educationnext.org/20052/4.html - you will Gauld's letter - in his THIRD line, he mentions "The Moral Imperative" - click on this and you can read Traub's eye-witness observations of his visit to Hyde-Bath"


Here's the full article on Hyde by Traub: http://www.educationnext.org/20051/22.html  

You're right, this article provides a very accurate portrait of Hyde's cultish qualities.  This would be good for parents considering Hyde to read.  My guess is that this would scare them away from Hyde.
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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2005, 10:34:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-10 15:49:00, Lars wrote:

"Mystery solved.  The "Hyde's Attorney" appears to be the same clown posting on the Elan board as "Mr. Pink's Attorney."  Just ignore.



And wow, as bad as Hyde was, I'm glad didn't go to THAT place.   :scared: [ This Message was edited by: Lars on 2005-12-10 15:51 ]"


Excellent work, Larry.  It's unfortunate that someone like this "Hyde Attorney" pollutes our efforts to engage in reasonable dialogue about Hyde.  As you say, he/she should simply be ignored.
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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2005, 10:54:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-10 15:49:00, Lars wrote:


"Mystery solved.  The "Hyde's Attorney" appears to be the same clown posting on the Elan board as "Mr. Pink's Attorney."  Just ignore.





And wow, as bad as Hyde was, I'm glad didn't go to THAT place.   :scared: [ This Message was edited by: Lars on 2005-12-10 15:51 ]"




Excellent work, Larry.  It's unfortunate that someone like this "Hyde Attorney" pollutes our efforts to engage in reasonable dialogue about Hyde.  As you say, he/she should simply be ignored."
The guy made some very valid points, either way.
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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2005, 01:22:00 AM »
You guys are pussy's  :lol:  say what you will, but know I'm right :lol: Hyde is a great school
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« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2005, 06:28:00 AM »
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On 2005-12-10 22:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You guys are pussy's  :lol:  say what you will, but know I'm right :lol: Hyde is a great school"


I trust you realize that each time you post a comment like this you demonstrate, in a very public way, how immature some of the people affiliated with Hyde are.  This is valuable information for parents who are considering Hyde, Google the school, and find this website and comments like yours.  You are doing a fine job of discouraging people from applying to Hyde.
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« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2005, 08:24:00 AM »
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On 2005-12-10 13:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I just had a major insight.  



Background: Many of the comments on this website note that Hyde has some classic cult features.  The article by James Traub about Hyde in the Hoover Institution publication reinforces what many of us have observed during our time at Hyde.  In addition, a couple of people on this website have observed that Joe Gauld has some of the classic features of a cult leader, including narcissism.  (Recently at a Hyde weekend I saw Joe Gauld "hold court" with Hyde parents and do that routine where he goes around the room and "diagnoses" parents and their circumstances, parenting instincts, etc.  I witnessed a horrible incident where Gauld confronted one particular parent, demeaned the parent horribly, and eventually "ordered" the parent to leave.  I couldn't believe Gauld's gall and audacity.  That incident convinced me, more than ever, that Hyde is a very dangerous environment.)



Well, I just came across a document, unexpectedly, that REALLY helps me understand what Joe Gauld is all about.  It's the formal definition of narcissism used by the American Psychiatric Association in its diagnositic manual.  When I read this the lightbulb went on!  For those of you who know Joe Gauld and have watched him in action, observed how he treats Hyde parents and students, how he patronizes and demeans others and draws attention to himself, how he explodes on occasion and arrogantly assumes that he has the answers . . . keep all of this in mind as you read the American Psychiatric Association's definition of narcissistic personality disorder.  I can't believe the overlap between Joe Gauld's profile and this definition.  Here it is (quoted word for word):



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Diagnostic Criteria



A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:



   1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

   2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

   3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

   4. requires excessive admiration

   5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

   6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

   7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

   8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

   9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes



It has taken my family and me some time to really understand Hyde and its all-too-often destructive influence.  This APA summary has helped me get a handle on what's going on at Hyde.  This makes me more determined than ever to let parents who are considering Hyde know what they'd encounter if they enroll."


This summary of the American Psychiatric Association's definition of narcissistic personality disorder is an AMAZINGLY accurate summary of Joe Gauld.
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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2005, 11:20:00 AM »
OMG, this is SO Joe Gauld.  Thanks for diagnosing him.  At least it is a little easier to understand the craziness of that place now!
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« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2005, 12:06:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-11 03:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-12-10 22:22:00, Anonymous wrote:


"You guys are pussy's  :wink:
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« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2005, 12:31:00 PM »
This definition of narcissism IS JOE GAULD.  I sure wouldn't want my child to go to a school which is run by someone who has Narcissism!!

This is quite frightening and answers many of the questions I had while at Hyde.  I knew this man was an Ego Maniac, but this goes a bit futher explaining what his issues are.  Isn't he also a recovering alcoholic?
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« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2005, 03:12:00 PM »
He's a recovering asshole too! Megalomaniacal wierdo who's obsessed at seeing others FAIL.
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« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2005, 04:05:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-11 12:12:00, Anonymous wrote:

"He's a recovering asshole too! Megalomaniacal wierdo who's obsessed at seeing others FAIL."
Think what you will, but Hyde School is one that teaches exceptional values and morals, while being sensitive to the needs of our students and faculty. And I have absolutley NO IDEA who "Pink's Attorney" is, nor do I care. I have NOTHING to do with the sick, twisted Elan School.
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« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2005, 04:09:00 PM »
I have also encouraged Joseph Gauld to review this board and perhaps set up a conference call with the people who have something to say about Joe's qualitys and actions and the state of The Hyde School itself. I'll keep you informed of any and all happenings. Have a great evening folks.
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