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Diagnosing Hyde: The Gauld Effect
Anonymous:
In his letter to the Hyde-DC faculty, Joe takes his behavior and turns it into an issue about the faculty who did not express their disapproval about his behavior directly, instead of making the issue about his behavior itself. This is classic Joe Gauld. I recall once as a faculty member being blamed for Joe spending too much time on the golf course. The reason we were blamed as a faculty was because we "allowed" him to play too much golf when he was supposed to be working, instead of confronting him about it. No kidding. This took the responsibility away from Joe for his behavior. As though we really had any control over Joe, and as though if we had told him what we thought, he would have listened without turning it into a confrontation about our own attitudes.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-30 19:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
" In his letter to the Hyde-DC faculty, Joe takes his behavior and turns it into an issue about the faculty who did not express their disapproval about his behavior directly, instead of making the issue about his behavior itself. This is classic Joe Gauld. I recall once as a faculty member being blamed for Joe spending too much time on the golf course. The reason we were blamed as a faculty was because we "allowed" him to play too much golf when he was supposed to be working, instead of confronting him about it. No kidding. This took the responsibility away from Joe for his behavior. As though we really had any control over Joe, and as though if we had told him what we thought, he would have listened without turning it into a confrontation about our own attitudes."
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Hey
Your post is refeshing. I saw that dynamic when I was at hyde. You take the issue and turn it back and the fact that you were not willing to devote a ton of energy into a confrontation indicates a charater flaw. I wonder how much of Joe's methods go back to this childhood and the power politics of a very strict stepfather.
I don't want to out you, but when were you there?
aka Sumner
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-31 03:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-30 19:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
" In his letter to the Hyde-DC faculty, Joe takes his behavior and turns it into an issue about the faculty who did not express their disapproval about his behavior directly, instead of making the issue about his behavior itself. This is classic Joe Gauld. I recall once as a faculty member being blamed for Joe spending too much time on the golf course. The reason we were blamed as a faculty was because we "allowed" him to play too much golf when he was supposed to be working, instead of confronting him about it. No kidding. This took the responsibility away from Joe for his behavior. As though we really had any control over Joe, and as though if we had told him what we thought, he would have listened without turning it into a confrontation about our own attitudes."
--- End quote ---
Hey
Your post is refeshing. I saw that dynamic when I was at hyde. You take the issue and turn it back and the fact that you were not willing to devote a ton of energy into a confrontation indicates a charater flaw. I wonder how much of Joe's methods go back to this childhood and the power politics of a very strict stepfather.
I don't want to out you, but when were you there?
aka Sumner"
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In spite of someone saying that Joe does not think he is above all, his letters indicate the opposite.
When our family was at Hyde he sent out a letter reprimanding parents for trying to be involved in a way which he did not find acceptable. He stated that Hyde knows best what is right for your child, and that if we didn't accept this then maybe we should find another school. He equated it with looking for another doctor if you aren't happy with the one you have. This letter shocked all of the parents at this time. It was so incredibly arrogant and sounded more like a Cult than a school.
Although Hyde has some very good elements, it is frightening to my family the hold that the school seems to have on it's followers as well as the scary attitudes of the Administrators and faculty. Please don't kill the messenger.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-31 07:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-31 03:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-30 19:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
" In his letter to the Hyde-DC faculty, Joe takes his behavior and turns it into an issue about the faculty who did not express their disapproval about his behavior directly, instead of making the issue about his behavior itself. This is classic Joe Gauld. I recall once as a faculty member being blamed for Joe spending too much time on the golf course. The reason we were blamed as a faculty was because we "allowed" him to play too much golf when he was supposed to be working, instead of confronting him about it. No kidding. This took the responsibility away from Joe for his behavior. As though we really had any control over Joe, and as though if we had told him what we thought, he would have listened without turning it into a confrontation about our own attitudes."
--- End quote ---
Hey
Your post is refeshing. I saw that dynamic when I was at hyde. You take the issue and turn it back and the fact that you were not willing to devote a ton of energy into a confrontation indicates a charater flaw. I wonder how much of Joe's methods go back to this childhood and the power politics of a very strict stepfather.
I don't want to out you, but when were you there?
aka Sumner"
--- End quote ---
In spite of someone saying that Joe does not think he is above all, his letters indicate the opposite.
When our family was at Hyde he sent out a letter reprimanding parents for trying to be involved in a way which he did not find acceptable. He stated that Hyde knows best what is right for your child, and that if we didn't accept this then maybe we should find another school. He equated it with looking for another doctor if you aren't happy with the one you have. This letter shocked all of the parents at this time. It was so incredibly arrogant and sounded more like a Cult than a school.
Although Hyde has some very good elements, it is frightening to my family the hold that the school seems to have on it's followers as well as the scary attitudes of the Administrators and faculty. Please don't kill the messenger."
--- End quote ---
It dosn't don't sound like a cult. It sound like a guy that is saying, "look I have been doing this for 40 years, I know what I am doing. I am offering you my expertice. If you don't want it leave"
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-01 14:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-31 07:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-31 03:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-30 19:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
" In his letter to the Hyde-DC faculty, Joe takes his behavior and turns it into an issue about the faculty who did not express their disapproval about his behavior directly, instead of making the issue about his behavior itself. This is classic Joe Gauld. I recall once as a faculty member being blamed for Joe spending too much time on the golf course. The reason we were blamed as a faculty was because we "allowed" him to play too much golf when he was supposed to be working, instead of confronting him about it. No kidding. This took the responsibility away from Joe for his behavior. As though we really had any control over Joe, and as though if we had told him what we thought, he would have listened without turning it into a confrontation about our own attitudes."
--- End quote ---
Hey
Your post is refeshing. I saw that dynamic when I was at hyde. You take the issue and turn it back and the fact that you were not willing to devote a ton of energy into a confrontation indicates a charater flaw. I wonder how much of Joe's methods go back to this childhood and the power politics of a very strict stepfather.
I don't want to out you, but when were you there?
aka Sumner"
--- End quote ---
In spite of someone saying that Joe does not think he is above all, his letters indicate the opposite.
When our family was at Hyde he sent out a letter reprimanding parents for trying to be involved in a way which he did not find acceptable. He stated that Hyde knows best what is right for your child, and that if we didn't accept this then maybe we should find another school. He equated it with looking for another doctor if you aren't happy with the one you have. This letter shocked all of the parents at this time. It was so incredibly arrogant and sounded more like a Cult than a school.
Although Hyde has some very good elements, it is frightening to my family the hold that the school seems to have on it's followers as well as the scary attitudes of the Administrators and faculty. Please don't kill the messenger."
--- End quote ---
It dosn't don't sound like a cult. It sound like a guy that is saying, "look I have been doing this for 40 years, I know what I am doing. I am offering you my expertice. If you don't want it leave"
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Forty years of experience and what does Hyde have to show for it? How many successes and how many failures? If there are so many success stories coming out of Hyde the last forty years, why haven't we heard about it? Where are all the alumni? There should be ten or twenty times the amount that exist. I am sorry, but I just don't see the success rate at Hyde that some of you talk about. Joe Gauld might have forty years experience in teaching, but I am not so sure he has found the "magic bullet." If I am wrong I apologize, but I sure would like to see all these successes rather than the handful that are bragged about!
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