Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
From a Hyde Students Prospective
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-10 08:58:00, Lars wrote:
"Well said - coherent and not too vitriolic (like my early posts). :razz: One of my "issues" (as they put it at Hyde) is that I've always been too sensitive, I take things too personally. Of course, practicing law has thickened my skin quite a bit, but the hard feelings I'd had from back when I went to Hyde, well, they came out in a big way when I started posting here (of course, it was good to get them off my chest). It's good to see that you can evaluate things in a reasonable way.
Keep working hard in college. It sounds like you do have the tools to succeed and it's well worth it. Success there will open up doors for you that you might not have expected."
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Thank you Lars. I appreciate your warm and sensitive comments. I am trying to work hard in college, but have a form of ADD and unfortunately Hyde did not have any tools in place to help someone like me. I pretty much lost out on my entire high school education because of this. They were more interested in whether I participated in "group" then educating me.
When I tried to transfer my senior year to a school in my hometown they told me I would have to repeat a grade because I didn't have the proper credits needed. I couldn't understand how in the world Hyde did not have me taking the basic requirements for public school? Hyde had already held me back one grade,(this is common practice even when your grades are good) so I was 18 being told I would be almost 20 by the time I graduated. The only answer my parents and I could think of was to get my GED. I really hate Hyde for lying that I would have all the requirements I needed for the future. Had they been honest with my parents I probably wouldn't have gone there. I was not in crisis and could have picked many other schools! This is one instance where they need to look at themselves rather than asking us to look at ourselves!
It sounds like you discovered the same thing I have. Although Hyde has some good traits, it sure didn't do me a whole lot of good and in fact harmed me.
I will catch up eventually in college, and in the future it will all be a bad distant memory, but for now it is somewhat tough and I remain bitter when I read this board and see that NOTHING has changed at that school! Like the song goes, "I will survive" and hopefully I will be as successful as you.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-11 15:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-10 08:58:00, Lars wrote:
"Well said - coherent and not too vitriolic (like my early posts). :razz: One of my "issues" (as they put it at Hyde) is that I've always been too sensitive, I take things too personally. Of course, practicing law has thickened my skin quite a bit, but the hard feelings I'd had from back when I went to Hyde, well, they came out in a big way when I started posting here (of course, it was good to get them off my chest). It's good to see that you can evaluate things in a reasonable way.
Keep working hard in college. It sounds like you do have the tools to succeed and it's well worth it. Success there will open up doors for you that you might not have expected."
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Thank you Lars. I appreciate your warm and sensitive comments. I am trying to work hard in college, but have a form of ADD and unfortunately Hyde did not have any tools in place to help someone like me. I pretty much lost out on my entire high school education because of this. They were more interested in whether I participated in "group" then educating me.
When I tried to transfer my senior year to a school in my hometown they told me I would have to repeat a grade because I didn't have the proper credits needed. I couldn't understand how in the world Hyde did not have me taking the basic requirements for public school? Hyde had already held me back one grade,(this is common practice even when your grades are good) so I was 18 being told I would be almost 20 by the time I graduated. The only answer my parents and I could think of was to get my GED. I really hate Hyde for lying that I would have all the requirements I needed for the future. Had they been honest with my parents I probably wouldn't have gone there. I was not in crisis and could have picked many other schools! This is one instance where they need to look at themselves rather than asking us to look at ourselves!
It sounds like you discovered the same thing I have. Although Hyde has some good traits, it sure didn't do me a whole lot of good and in fact harmed me.
I will catch up eventually in college, and in the future it will all be a bad distant memory, but for now it is somewhat tough and I remain bitter when I read this board and see that NOTHING has changed at that school! Like the song goes, "I will survive" and hopefully I will be as successful as you."
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Thank you for sharing your story with us. This will help me make the decision I am struggling with on where to send my son. I believe he needs a different kind of environment then the one I am reading about here. I appreciate the help from all of you.
Anonymous:
If you're seriously considering Hyde for your child, there definely is some very helpful and insightful information on this site...but it is very one sided. If you wanted to buy an iPod, you wouldn't just go to the "I hate iPods" web blog...
Go for an interview. It's free and you get a pretty honest look at what's going on up there.
Just don't drink the blue juice!
Good luck with your search!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-13 08:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If you're seriously considering Hyde for your child, there definely is some very helpful and insightful information on this site...but it is very one sided. If you wanted to buy an iPod, you wouldn't just go to the "I hate iPods" web blog...
Go for an interview. It's free and you get a pretty honest look at what's going on up there.
Just don't drink the blue juice!
Good luck with your search!"
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I certainly agree that anyone who is considering Hyde should go for a visit. We did that. Unfortunately, we now know that much of what concerns us about Hyde was NOT disclosed or apparent during that visit.
So, I would consider the visit important but PLEASE keep in mind that there's so much more to the Hyde story. At the end of our visit we knew a fair amount about character education (Hyde style), the family component, the role of the seminars, the campus, etc. However, here's a partial list of what we did not know after that visit (and what it took us some time to figure out). At the end of the visit we did not know about the fact that:
-- Hyde accepts a huge percentage of kids with significant mental health and behavioral problems and does not have any mental health staff to deal with these issues
-- Hyde employs so many staff who have rocky personal and academic records
-- Hyde employs so many staff who are married to each other, former students, etc. (Hyde incest)
-- some Hyde staff engage in incredibly abusive verbal behavior toward some students and parents
-- the Hyde model doesn't take into serious consideration students' mental health issues when responding to students' emotional and behavioral struggles
-- the school has an unusually high attrition rate
-- a significant number of educational consultants refuse to refer students/families to Hyde because of their concern about Hyde's model
-- Joe Gauld (the founder) behaves VERY inappropriately, unprofessionally, and abusively at times (an extraordinarily poor role model who often doesn't live up to the Hyde values he recites)
-- students and parents will be expected to disclose very personal information about themselves to strangers, in seminar sessions, and will be confronted if they don't
-- seminars often become emotionally volatile and distressing to participants, and Hyde facilitators have little training or skill for handling these episodes
We didn't learn any of this until we were affiliated with Hyde for quite some time. It took us quite a few visits (and seminars) to begin to get it. So, yes you should visit. But the visit provides only the headline, and barely that.
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