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Ft. Lauderdale:
Geese, I thought I was turning into Tom for a second. :grin:

landyh:

--- Quote ---On 2005-12-13 09:37:00, Antigen wrote:

"One word, Landy: Tulia
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense

--Buddha
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Ginger,
I think we probably can find some common ground on this kind of thing. What happened in Tulia was despicable. I wonder why our country doesn't get duly alarmed over things like this including Waco and Ruby Ridge. Can we some it up by parphrasing a portion of an old quote? "When they came for me there was no one left". On the other hand if you go back to my original comment to which you replied you might notice I was just trying to take your advice about lightening up. :wink: Listen if you want to look at the slow erosion of our freedoms take a look at the DUI laws around the country and how they allow "legal" exceptions to due process under the law. Prior restraint, denial of a trial by a jury of your peers. This crap is all taking place write here in our sweet country because people think well we really need those drunks off the road anyway. If you want to really get scared go to Association of Motor Vehichle Department Administrators and read what their long term goals are. Doesn't anybody see the implications of a National linked Database of Driver Licenses all tied to a social security number and compulsory for State compliance by ties to funding mandated by TEA. Notice that your kids if you have them probably didn't make it out of the hospital without a social security number and certainly won't make it to a publicly funded school without one. Its Ok now to incarcerate sexual offenders who have already served their time for there crimes but its all Ok because it isn't you. Not yet anyway. I haven't even touched on the implications to our rights of the Patriot Act. To sum it up I think it was Franklin who said " if you give up liberty for security you have neither liberty nor security" All I can say is make sure your papers are in order and with you.

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2005-12-13 17:22:00, landyh wrote:


 I wonder why our country doesn't get duly alarmed over things like this

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How often do you wonder? How long have you wondered? And have any ideas occured to you? I have a few. One common thread is, of course, there's always a boogieman. Drugs are a big one. It's a beautiful thing because drug use is an intractible condition. Not a huge problem, usually. Except when a population is subject to inescapable stress, it's usually just a minor side note as social problems go. How convenient, eh? You take a place like Tulia where almost everyone's poor. And the poorest are black (not by coincidence) And so they'll be more tempted to engage in drug trade and, maybe, in excessive use, too.

But, regardless, drug use is, was and ever shall be everywhere. Wanna indict a group for any reason? Any reason at all; cause they're young, cause they're black, cause they're poor and there's nothing to be done about that (not that we're willing to do, anyway), cause they're RAVErs who sing and dance about anarchy and other scary stuff? Any damned reason will do, just bring in the drug dogs. They'll find some, guaranteed.

So, initially, when the story broke, few questioned the lunacy of the idea that a little panhandle town like Tulia, with one gas station, could support a market for over 40 drug kingpins. Least ways, not till that one white guy spoke up, then hooked up w/ some activists and ACLU types, and a newspaperman or three decided to ride that story to the end of the line. Then, of course, it was obvious. A lot of things about that story were obvious fabrications; Tom Coleman, Texas Lawman of the Year???? My Ass!

But initially, why of course it was true. Who would question it? They had photos of the perp walks on the front page of the local paper; a perfect manifestation of that boogieman they'd been reading about and talking about at every damned PTA meeting for decades.

That's why no one raises an eyebrow; they have, for the most part, already accepted the fantasy before the patsy need be chosen. Unless, of course, we have a healthy, free and open debate. Yah know, like in that old Norman Rockwell poster.




Do you support drug prohibition because it finances criminals at home or because it finances terrorists abroad?
--Anonymous
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Drug war POW
Straight, Sarasota
`80 - `82

Anonymous:
Did Art Barker or anyone ever affiliated with the Seed have anything to do with this?

Do you call what is being posted the Straight board freedom of speech?

GregFL:
Yes, in the sense that we are all graduates or attendees of the seed, or otherwise involved in some manner.

No, Art Barker has been invited to participate thru third party proxies but has not to this date.

And yes, what is occuring in the straight site is freedom of speech, even if you do not like it.


Oh yeah, welcome whoever you are.

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