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Caroline and Nicole???????
« on: December 06, 2005, 02:14:00 AM »
Caroline used to own a school called Second Nature in Utah...and then she was fired because she was always drunk. During that time she lived with Nicole Bailey...do you guys remember her?
They were always together when they worked at RMA...She did start the school in Maine with Jackie...but she isn't working there anymore. They removed her from the faculty list in like 2003..I heard that she moved back to L.A. but I'm not sure. She was with some guy over in Maine but they broke up a few years back.
Caroline was only fake homophobic. I know of a couple of students that she slept with...and they weren't only guys. I also heard that she had a thing with Nicole going on, and Matt, and that is one of the reasons that she was let go.


I JUST CUT AND PASTED THIS FROM THE CAROLINE THE WOLF TOPIC.... I HEARD SOME OF THESE RUMORS AS WELL. I ALWAYS THOUGHT NICOLE WAS A HUGE DYKE. SHE WAS ALWAYS LAUGHING AND JOKING AROUND ABOUT SEX WITH THE GIRLS. SHE ALWAYS GAVE US "SEX TALKS" AND POINTERS ABOUT SEX.

I HEARD THAT SHE GOT IN TROUBLE UP IN IDAHO FOR SOMETHING TO DO WITH A KID.  ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING?
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Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2005, 05:39:00 AM »
who got in trouble?  Nicole or Caroline?
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Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2005, 04:03:00 AM »
I remember reading about that. It happended like in Sandpoint or something. Nicole got caught fucking a couple of her students. and they mentioned something about emotional abuse. I laughed my ass off because it didnt surprise me coming from RMA :wstupid:
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Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2005, 11:37:00 AM »
When Caroline/Jenny was a student at Cedu R.S. she seemed very close to another girl there but I have no concrete evidence on that one.
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Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2008, 06:07:49 AM »
Caroline Wolf_r4 owned a school?
Now that may be the most ridiculous thing I've seen on this site.
what a distgustingly trashy slouch!
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Re: Caroline and Nicole??????? new info..........................
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2008, 07:56:43 AM »
i was looking for the "caroline the wolf" thread but this will do. i talked to one of my little sisters from RMA tonight, one that was taken under caroline's wing, so she had a little more info than i had originally thought. apparently caroline had to be carried out of the school that she and barbara walter's daughter opened, went to the betty ford clinic for being a huge alcoholic, and last my friend heard was running from the law because matt from philly's mom is still suing her for sleeping with her son (who was 15 at the time) even though now he apparently runs his business from cuba. who knew?

people are strange.
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Caroline
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2008, 12:32:31 PM »
It pisses me off that Jackie would be irresponsible enough to hire Caroline at her  own school knowing that C. abused students at RMA. DISGUSTING! There is no way Jackie didn't know. Sick fucks.
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Re: Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2008, 02:08:18 PM »
I have seen so many threads about this woman that I have decided to have an article ordered on Fornits Wiki and here it is: Caroline Wolf
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Re: Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2008, 02:49:56 PM »
good call. i'll add what i  can.
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Re: a little update on Niccole
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2008, 07:00:06 AM »
I just looked at some old pictures of Nicole -- the "Niccole Bayley" on the website is not the Nicole Bailey that went to RMA.

M


Quote from: "Guest"
Check out www.niccolebayley.com It is her website, and here are the words to one of her songs that she wrote about the girl that turned her in. There are a couple more on there about her as well....its sick!

Don't try to scold me
Try to mold me into what you want
Don't lie pull the wool over my eyes
Try to crucify by being blunt

I know what you did
You were just a kid
And you got off
Consciousness is a funny thing
You'll pay the price
For the pain you bring

And some how you'll keep runnin'
And some how you're gonna get what's commin' to you
And some how I'll make my way
Regardless, of what you say!

I have had enough
They couldn't see it
To call your bluff
They stand in line
Just to make you afraid
Make you feel guilty
Manipulated and betrayed

And anything looks bad in the wrong light
Twisted and bent they try with all their might
Cause they are loosing sight
They just can't see

And anything looks bad in the wrong light
Twisted and bent they try with all their might
Cause they are loosing sight
They just can't see
No they just can't see
It's their reality
They just can't see
To let me be
Just let me be



It's pretty disturbing where she is singing about a kid getting off....
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Re: a little update on Niccole
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2008, 08:56:24 AM »
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I just looked at some old pictures of Nicole -- the "Niccole Bayley" on the website is not the Nicole Bailey that went to RMA.

M

In the interest of The Truth -- since it would not be thinkable to target an innocent person for the sins of another, based simply on a similarity in names -- here are some facts stated about "Niccole Bayley" from her website, mostly from the section titled "Press." Perhaps someone more familiar with the "Nicole Bailey" from RMA could weigh in, one way or the other, as to the compatibility of these data with the person they remember.

•   Niccole Bayley is ~36 according to one review (the review mentioned both of her CDs so it is probably relatively recent).
•   Bayley is quite short, not much more than 5 ft. tall.
•   Bayley hails originally from Columbus, NJ.
•   One of Bayley's songs, "Sweet Wyoming," is about time she spent at Teton Valley Ranch Camp, first as attendee, later as counselor. This place does not appear to be a behav mod facility, although I could be wrong, and it could have changed. See the following links for some perspective:

TVR Camp - Camp Management
http://www.ranchweb.com/tetonvalley/
Summer Camp Jobs - Teton Vally Ranch Camp - Wyoming
Famed Wyoming Ranch Offered for Sale

In the interest of full disclosure, I should probably mention that the current Assistant Director of TVRC spent 3 yrs teaching at Hyde School. Many young, well-meaning souls end up duped into spending a few years at Hyde; they usually do not last long. Tom Marshall's case would appear to be no exception.
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Re: Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2008, 01:56:46 AM »
After Caroline "left" Second Nature wilderness program she was working with a man out of L.A.named John Hallworth or Hayworth.Caroline and John were escorting kids to programs.During that time Caroline was living in the basement apartment of Nicole Bailey's house in Sandpoint.I heard that she was a mess during this time.There is much more to the Caroline/Jackie and Barbra Walter's relationship.
We have to remember that Caroline is also a victim/product of the twisted  world of cedu. 
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Re: Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 02:47:51 AM »
more info please, years and such. and yeah, she was a product of the CEDU environment but she also made a conscious coward's choice to be at rma.  as far as i know and i've heard she served no greater good. made a choice to make kid's lives as miserable as posible, just like hers. fuck, take your aggression out elsewhere please, go join a kickboxing class or something, go take your anger out somewhere else. she was such a HUGE bitch, to those that didn't make it into her family, and those she let into her family drug ran and fucked her. whatever. she gets no sympathy from me. i could go back and be a counselor and i would be your best friend, not your worst enemy. i don't know why intimidation was what she thought her best weapon was. christ, what a lunatic.
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Re: Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2008, 10:18:29 PM »
The Niccole Bayley on the website is the Niccole Bayley that worked at RMA. I know this for a fact because I kept in touch with her long after she left RMA and started teaching at the Bonners Ferry High School. She became a P.E. teacher there, and was later fired for sleeping with TWO of her PE students, one of which was 14 when it started and the other was 16. She is also the one who had Caroline Wolf living in her basement. She worked at RMA from around 91 or 92 up until 95, maybe early 96. She started working at Bonners Ferry High school in 1996 and was fired in 2001. When she was at RMA she was really good friends with Caroline Wolf and Shannon Wilson.
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Re: Caroline and Nicole???????
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2008, 08:42:44 AM »
i never knew it was possible to post anonymous.
wasn't she married to a former student herself? That's pretty sick though, a couple of strange pedophiles those women were. Mean and stupid to top it all off.
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