Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
My son is currently at Aspen Ranch
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: ""hanzomon4"" ---I'm not surprised by your daughters reaction, even in the most abusive programs you will find this reaction common among kids still in the program or a few years out of the program.
Despite what you may believe your daughter was not free to tell you whatever she wanted to. Here's why [*]She would face accusations of manipulation if she was to say anything bad about the program. No doubt you would have talked to staff about any accusation and they would deny it, tell you not to believe her manipulations, and she would be dropped a few levels lengthening her stay.[*]The nature of the program is one of thought reform. It uses many of the tactic types of thought reform as defined by Margaret Singer]
Hit the nail on the head. I couldn't believe it the first time I went through this site http://www.ex-cult.org/. Singer, Lifton and Hassan.
--- Quote ---She is apart of the group now, a trusty, who is now afforded privileges not offered to those outside of the group. This is a two fold thing however, a velvet glove over an iron fist. These privileges reward here for accepting the group think and philosophy, however it also increases her dependence on the group. If she's not lock step with the program those privileges will turn into antagonistic weapons of manipulation to get her back in line with the group's think.
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Yep. At Straight it was "phases". 1 - 5. We lived in fear of getting "set-back". I was on 4th phase after 18 months and was started over. That was the worst of the phase drops. I had been "put on refresher", a "no phase" and various other phase drops. It's all classic mind control.
--- Quote ---Every program parent says this, even Straight,INC parents. I suggest you read the postings of survivors in regards to their parents, I believe you will find it to be quiet reflective.. Nothing short of a video of the abuse will ever make you believe differently, so oh well.....
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Yep. My dad said pretty much verbatim what that parent wrote.
--- Quote ---I willl find some way to support it afterwards - you have NO idea what it means to a parent when you watch your daughter go from a broken shell to a growing teenager.
And I wonder how many of the goofballs are even parents? Or kids who have been through a program?
My guess? Zero.
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Yes I do. Been in a program and have two grown daughters, one of which scared the crap out of me for about 5 or 6 years. Read my posts or ask if you're interested, I'm not gonna bore everyone again. :)
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hanzomon4:
Lucky me! My one 100th post is also the 100th reply.... I'm going to win a million dollars :D
Covergaard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen_Ranch
Enjoy.
Anne Bonney:
Covergaard, you rock!! I didn't see the LifeSteps though. That's, IMO, one of the most dangerous aspects of this place.
Who, everything that I read about ASR smacks of Straight. Not just the anti stuff either. What you and other pro people have posted too. It's really no different and even you admit that Straight was abusive. So is ASR.
Covergaard:
I have found Aspen Ranch on MapQuest (Thank you for placing AR on the hillside. It made it easier. It is placed a couple of miles west of Loa.The road is not named on the either of the maps.), but when I used Msn-maps, the place was a desert.
The school is more than 10 years old. I can not believe that M$ have only a 10 year old air photo of that place.
Knowing that both M$ and Aspen have their HQ in California, is it unthinkable that they have some kind of corporate agreement so M$ employees can place their so-called troubled youth at a remote place?
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