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« Reply #60 on: December 15, 2005, 10:09:00 AM »
See, the problem is, if the rebellious child is under 17, programs often become the only option to spare the rest of the family after everything else has been tried.  From what I have seen, most of the parents are not only trying to help the rebellious child, but are also trying to protect the other children.  Once the child is 17, in our state, they may leave the home and the parents are not held legally responsible for the childs behavior.
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« Reply #61 on: December 15, 2005, 10:39:00 AM »
So all the program is, is a holding facility until they turn 18? Because WWASP programs rarely help anyone. Seems like an awful lot of money for babysitting.

How about emancipation? Don't most states allow this? (especially with parents approval)
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« Reply #62 on: December 15, 2005, 11:09:00 AM »
Not until 17
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« Reply #63 on: December 15, 2005, 12:55:00 PM »
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"Not until 17"


In california you only have to be 14.
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« Reply #64 on: December 15, 2005, 12:56:00 PM »
In california and want to be emancipated?


http://www.saccourt.com/family/emancipa ... pation.asp
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« Reply #65 on: December 15, 2005, 01:02:00 PM »
for national emancipation laws

http://www.jlc.org/home/mediacenter/fac ... ipUSA.html


alaskans.. you gotta be 16.
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« Reply #66 on: December 15, 2005, 02:12:00 PM »
For more about emancipation ages for each state:

look under emancipation facts

http://www.amber-net.org/amberstatutes.htm
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« Reply #67 on: December 15, 2005, 02:45:00 PM »
Wonderful advice!!!
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« Reply #68 on: December 15, 2005, 03:21:00 PM »
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"See, the problem is, if the rebellious child is under 17, programs often become the only option to spare the rest of the family after everything else has been tried.  From what I have seen, most of the parents are not only trying to help the rebellious child, but are also trying to protect the other children.  Once the child is 17, in our state, they may leave the home and the parents are not held legally responsible for the childs behavior.  "

    From what I understand this boy is 17.5. Definitely not under 17 if you ask me.  So, in other words, what are his parents gaining by sending him away for 6 months?
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« Reply #69 on: December 15, 2005, 07:04:00 PM »
They are trying to give him a last shot at a decent life. This was the last thing they could try.  Six days in jail didnt faze him a bit.
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« Reply #70 on: December 15, 2005, 07:20:00 PM »
It will only make it worse. Please come back here to this thread in 9 months after he's been out for a couple months, and tell me I'm wrong.
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« Reply #71 on: December 15, 2005, 07:53:00 PM »
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"It will only make it worse. Please come back here to this thread in 9 months after he's been out for a couple months, and tell me I'm wrong. "


Yea, keep us posted on his remarkable improvement.  By the way, did he attend his trial today?
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« Reply #72 on: December 15, 2005, 08:06:00 PM »
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"It will only make it worse. Please come back here to this thread in 9 months after he's been out for a couple months, and tell me I'm wrong. "




Yea, keep us posted on his remarkable improvement.  By the way, did he attend his trial today?"
What then do you do with a young man who wont follow simple house rules or the law and is hellbent on destroying himself?  What about the others in the family who have to live with his destructive behavior and the consequences?
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« Reply #73 on: December 15, 2005, 08:21:00 PM »
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What then do you do with a young man who wont follow simple house rules or the law and is hellbent on destroying himself? What about the others in the family who have to live with his destructive behavior and the consequences?


I can't answer those questions, I'm not a parent. What I can point out is that in my personal experience, WWASP was not what it was advertised, my parents felt ripped off in the end after spending tens of thousands of dollars, and I experienced torture by anyone's definition of the word. Granted not everyone ends up in isolation with a weirdo staff, but everyone at least gets a healthy dose of emotional abuse and brainwashing, and cult like treatment (intimidation, misinformation, etc). Since I am not in a position to tell you what to do, I can only offer my advice on what not to do, and that is to avoid WWASP and PROVO programs. Why do I specify these two? Because I was at both, and feel I have the right to comment. I will let others tell you about other schools, and whether they are good or bad. And don't think it's just me. There are hundreds of us in a myspace.com group alone. Think how many are out there who haven't signed on to that one particular website. The least someone can do is try not to make things worse. Good luck.
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« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2005, 09:37:00 PM »
sounds like this family needs to let this one go and pray for the best.  You know, like the old saying, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.  This guy is gonna have to learn it on his own.  Parents, spare yourself and the other children the heart ache and cut this one loose.
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