NORDSTROMS HAS A KWANZAA HOLIDAY GIFT CARD!

[Anonymous]

I'm sure there is a reason why its celebrated in December.  I know one family who specifically appreciate celebrating it in December because they want to be reminded of real values (which you celebrate each day of Kwanzaa), rejecting the gross consumerism and holiday hijacking from Hallmark and other vendors.

[Anonymous]

What's all the fuss? Competition? Check your racism.
Did you read the link provided? Not to worry, unless you're black, the holdiay/celebration wasn't intended for you or to usurp Xmas.

http://www.holidays.net/kwanzaa/story.htm

Kwanzaa begins on December 26th, the day after Christmas, and continues until New Years Day, January 1st.

On the sixth day, which falls on New Years Eve, family and friends get together to enjoy a large feast and to celebrate their history, culture, and the upcoming new year.

Dr. Karenga wanted to create a holiday [1966] that would bring AFRICAN AMERICANS together in CELEBRATION OF THEIR BLACK CULTURE.

The dates of the celebration, December 26 - January 1, were chosen to correspond to the end of the year celebrations in America. Kwanzaa begins the day after Christmas. This to bypass the commercial buying period but to take advantage of the seasonal holiday spirit.

[Hyde's Attorney]

African Americans are a fine, classy sect of people that I admire with the utmost respects and regard.

[bandit1978]

I DID read the link provided- thank you!  Kwanza sounds like a very positive, life-affirming celebration.  But why have this celebration at a time when there is so much else going on?

You don't have to be a "Christian" to appreciate Jesus or to celebrate Christmas.  I am surely not a "Christian", but I look to Jesus for inspiration, especially in doing my work as a nurse.  And I enjoy Christmas, to spend time with my family, and I like to give gifts- things people will enjoy, as a token of my love.

I am not African-American either, but if Kwanza were held at a different time, (February seems appropriate), I would enjoy taking the time to participate in the celebration.  

I have lots of African-American, and African, friends, most of whom ARE Christian, they celebrate Christmas and New Years, and consequently do not have the time to get very much involved with Kwanza.  

My family is Irish-American, and EVERYONE likes to celebrate St. Patricks day, and it's in March, so theres a lot more involvement than there would be if we held it in December.

[Anonymous]

I still don't get why YOU are so concerned about a holiday that doesn't effect you.
How much time does it really take to light a candle and discuss one of the 7 principals- unity, self-determination, collective work and responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity, and faith?
Actually sounds like a good wind-down after the gross explosion of materialism at xmas and before the new year. It's not like he made December, Black History Month.
How about Hanukkah? Starts on Xmas day this year, but usually falls during the height of shopping for the established 'christian' holiday. But all the c/j families I know, who it's important to, seem to manage both.
I just don't think it's appropriate, and could be unaware racism, for white people to complain about where blacks decide to schedule THEIR celebrations.

[Pinks Attorneys Friends N]

Who gives a fucking shit anyway

[bandit1978]

Take it easy!  It's not that serious, okay?  Just something to consider.   :roll:

[Nihilanthic]

Great, people are ripping off my niles avatar  :sad:

They serve so that we don't have to. They offer to give up their lives so that we can be free. It is, remarkably, their gift to us. And all they ask for in return is that we never send them into harm's way unless it is absolutely necessary. Will they ever trust us again?

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[Anonymous]

BLACK PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKING SENSITIVE AND INSECURE AND VOLATILE SO EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO WALK ON EGGSHELLS AROUND THEM!

[Anonymous]

All? Like all white people are oppressive slave owners?
When one is systematically beaten down, there's bound to be some backlash. Consider it pay back.

[Anonymous]

Payback for what?  

My family used to live in a nice neighborhood.  After 50 years, it became so bad, we had to sell our family home.  
Who do you suppose brought crime to our neighborhood, who broke into our house 3 times, and mugged my grandmother on the street?  I'll give you one guess.
Not that I blame every person for this- I know better than to dish out any sort of "payback" to any race-as-a-whole.
 But those who don't work, live off the dole, don't get educated, throw garbage on the streets, steal from other people, and TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY will reap "payback" of their own.

[Anonymous]

Whats the first thing that comes to mind when you hear "Prodominately Black Neighborhood" ? Come on, be honest you lil fuckers!!

[Anonymous]

Not a place I would want to live in. So sorry, but the majority of black people are dangerous. It's something genetic, something that they cannot change.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-14 19:37:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Whats the first thing that comes to mind when you hear "Prodominately Black Neighborhood" ? Come on, be honest you lil fuckers!!"

A place i'd stay far away from. I was a white minority at the junior high school I went to and the blacks love to 'get revenge' on whites for us controlling the world, or whatever they think it is we have that they don't. IMO, blacks are more racist than whites, because they are seeking revenge.

[Anonymous]