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Losers!
001010:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-01 09:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why don't you guys just get a life and fight for a real cause! You can sit on here and cry your eyes out each and everyday about how poorly you were treated in the program, and how the abused you, but it will do no good! Why?! Because there are thousands of people just like myself who are living witnesses of the goodness and change created in the programs! I graduated nearly 6 years ago, and I will forever stand as a witness against the false testimony of those who claim that the programs are abusive! Perhaps there have been those staff who have abused their power, and even crossed the line, but how many teachers and administrators in the public school system, or in the federal prison system of been guilty or equally or even more grievous crimes?! Perhaps we should then just shut down all of the schools in prisons in the world because of those employees who have crossed the line. Wake up and face the facts here people, every year hundreds of teens lives are saved, hundreds of families are restored, and hundreds of parents can sleep at night knowing that their children are safe. There are those of you, and you are certainly the minority that have claimed to have been seriously physically abused while in the program, if it true that pursue legal action, I have yet to seem many people try. You claim that the program is bullet proof because of contracts or such, while in reality the widespread abuse is just a work of fiction created by lying manipulating teenagers who were menaces before the program and now continue to be just that!
Proudgrad
SCL graduate 1999
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Bullshit or brainwashed.
Do you know what those seminars are that they force you to complete?
They're brainwashing guru money scamming criminal false advertising cult/brainwashing training sessions. Ever hear of Werner Erhart (EST)? Do a little research to find out what really happened to you. :tup:
Werner Erhart/EST: http://skepdic.com/est.html
Lifespring/David Gilcrease:
http://www.pianofinders.com/es/breakingthesecrecy.htm
You know, if Mama Cass Elliot would have shared that damn sandwich
with Karen Carpenter, they would both still be alive today!!!!!!!
--chongo
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EST (Lifespring) '83
Salesmanship Club '84-'86
Straight, Inc. '86-'88
001010:
Excerpt: est adopted, in part, the Zen master approach, which was often abusive, profane, demeaning, and authoritarian. (One of my favorite Zen stories is of the master who asks his disciple a series of questions. No matter what the disciple answers, the master hits him with a stick. Even contradictory answers are met with the stick.) While many participants did not perceive the training as particularly abusive, some were not used to the discipline requested of them. Some have claimed that one typically abusive approach was the requirement of extraordinary bladder control in est training. Participants were advised not to leave the room, even to go to the toilet, during training.
Sound at all familiar?
A student burst into his office. "Professor Stigler, I don't believe I deserve this F you've given me." To which Stigler replied, "I agree, but unfortunately it is the lowest grade the University will allow me to award."
--Professor Stigler
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trnsz:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_abuse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_psychological_abuse
And: http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcece ... s/BITE.htm - those seminars sound just like a cult to me!
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-- dbamsal@hotmail.com[ This Message was edited by: trnsz on 2005-12-01 11:32 ]
Anonymous:
Living witness, give us a name. And we'll check you out to see if you're really a student. If you want to be a "living witness" of "goodness and change", don't stay anonymous!
Anonymous:
"Wake up and face the facts here people, every year hundreds of teens lives are saved, hundreds of families are restored, and hundreds of parents can sleep at night knowing that their children are safe"
HA! Hundreds? Ummm, ok. I think you are absolutly crazy. I know where you are coming from because I was once a staunch program supporter as well and fiercly defended any anti program comments. I hope you stay on here, argue alot, look at the real facts, not your biased numbers you are pulling out of your ass, and eventually come to your senses.
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