Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Losers!
001010:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-02 08:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Its amazing reading these posts. Someone writes in and says they were abused by a program and everyone rallies to support them, no questions asked. But a similar post comes thru with a person who was successful and where the program helped them, everyone is suspicious, name calling, must be a conspiracy, must be a counselor or a program person, I want names and addresses, tell me where you live, what program you attended etc. Why cant people get past their own experiences, pull up a chair and listen to others, it might help."
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A really great grad that calls people names to feel superior! Yeah, what a success! Just what the program teaches, verbal abuse is #1!!!
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John Adams
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TheWho:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-02 08:54:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:
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On 2005-12-02 08:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Its amazing reading these posts. Someone writes in and says they were abused by a program and everyone rallies to support them, no questions asked. But a similar post comes thru with a person who was successful and where the program helped them, everyone is suspicious, name calling, must be a conspiracy, must be a counselor or a program person, I want names and addresses, tell me where you live, what program you attended etc. Why cant people get past their own experiences, pull up a chair and listen to others, it might help."
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I'm guessing you don't spend that much time on here ANON? It's very obvious to me, and everybody else that the post was writen by an individual who works for WWASP. I admit that sometimes it's hard for those of us who went to a WWASP school to fathom how somebody could've been helped by that joke of a program........???? I guess it's possible? I don't believe it to be the majority though. You see, I actually was in one of these places. Lucky me, so anyway I know what I am talking about. I am 32 years old, so I have found myself to be the oldest woman on here from one of these programs (not surprising considering all the shit I went through). See, I was in Cross Creek in the very beggining before all these different levels, and group names like Discovery even existed. We were the guinney pigs, while they were still doing there fine tuning.I was close to Bob Lichfield, and unfortunately he during the time of our close relationship picked my brain to come up with the level/points off system. Which was what I had at Heritage School. I know the way this mans brain works. I also got to know Brent Facer very well too. So, you see I know for a fact they are driven purely by money. Have you seen all the pictures, and special investigations done by the media? How can you think that is okay? How the hell does something like that help anybody? Well, I guess it's different strokes, for different folks?!! :roll: "
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Yes I agree, anyone who would start a thread called "LOSERS" has to be an asshole or something less than honest. I take it back, I am putting my chair away, I wrote too quickly, thanks for making me step back a little and take another look "CCM Girl"
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-01 10:09:00, 001010 wrote:
"Excerpt: est adopted, in part, the Zen master approach, which was often abusive, profane, demeaning, and authoritarian. (One of my favorite Zen stories is of the master who asks his disciple a series of questions. No matter what the disciple answers, the master hits him with a stick. Even contradictory answers are met with the stick.) While many participants did not perceive the training as particularly abusive, some were not used to the discipline requested of them. Some have claimed that one typically abusive approach was the requirement of extraordinary bladder control in est training. Participants were advised not to leave the room, even to go to the toilet, during training.
Sound at all familiar?
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http://www.premier-ed.com/seminars/
Oh, My GOD! How aweful to make people look at themselves - i'd rather watch Dr. Phil than to look at myself....LOL!!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-02 13:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-01 10:09:00, 001010 wrote:
"Excerpt: est adopted, in part, the Zen master approach, which was often abusive, profane, demeaning, and authoritarian. (One of my favorite Zen stories is of the master who asks his disciple a series of questions. No matter what the disciple answers, the master hits him with a stick. Even contradictory answers are met with the stick.) While many participants did not perceive the training as particularly abusive, some were not used to the discipline requested of them. Some have claimed that one typically abusive approach was the requirement of extraordinary bladder control in est training. Participants were advised not to leave the room, even to go to the toilet, during training.
Sound at all familiar?
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http://www.premier-ed.com/seminars/
Oh, My GOD! How aweful to make people look at themselves - i'd rather watch Dr. Phil than to look at myself....LOL!!
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Oh, My GOD! How AWEFUL to ask you to answer the abuse accusations isntead of ignore them and post press releases from a company that provides seminars!
CCM girl 1989:
"Yes I agree, anyone who would start a thread called "LOSERS" has to be an asshole or something less than honest. I take it back, I am putting my chair away, I wrote too quickly, thanks for making me step back a little and take another look "CCM Girl""
Ummm..........that wasn't me??? But, I agree 100% with what they said.
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