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Anonymous:
Trust your instincts Lars.  If you feel it will help you by confronting them, go for it.  If your instincts tell you it won't accomplish anything, listen to them.

The fact that someone from the school contacted you tells me they are worried about you and what you are saying on this site. I wouldn't doubt if Hyde picked out this particular friend to contact you thinking you would be receptive to him.  I don't trust Hyde or their intentions.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-11-30 19:56:00, Lars wrote:

"Actually, it was pretty obvious that the other party that came away from the conversation frustrated.  I stuck to my guns and kept telling him, "this is how I feel - I can't change that and you can't change that."  For a while, he kept trying to convince me that I was wrong, that I'd really had a positive experience.  Within a short amount of time he realized that he was dealing with a different animal entirely.  Not a confused kid or a desperate parent or a former student who was still "finding himself," but a successful & confident person who made it through their program and wouldn't shy away from telling them, albeit however nicely and respectfully, that they're full of of shit.  And that is just WAY out of their league.  Maybe, too, it's tough for them to deal with the idea that they inflicted unnecessary suffering on good kids who needed something different and better. Maybe not,  they're pretty arrogant in their belief that their approach is the right way for all kids.  Either way, I have no expectation of changing them.  It's simply a matter of finally being able to tell them what I really think.  



One thing's for sure, It's a hell of a lot different when they have no power over you.   :smile: "

--- End quote ---


I think you're right on the money with your last comment.  Hyde is so used to being in control, unchallenged, calling the shots.  Joe Gauld and company are so deeply in the mindset of telling other people what to do with their lives (wrapped around messages that Hyde families need to take control of their own lives).  My guess is that the current situation, where Hyde is being subjected to horrible PR and in a very public way that could affect their enrollments, is rattling their cage.   It's probably killing them that so many people who Google Hyde are seeing these comments. They've never been in this situation -- now THEY (as opposed to Hyde families in FLCs, etc.) are feeling overexposed.  The tables are being turned on Hyde and there's no play for this in the Hyde playbook (that notebook that all of us received when we signed on).  

I wouldn't be surprised if the Hyde senior staff have been caucusing to figure out how to handle this mess.  Perhaps they've debated whether to respond or, instead, to create the impression that they haven't noticed this website so that they don't add fuel to the fire.  I have a feeling they're in a no-win situation, and they know it.  They'd love to respond and try to challenge and discredit what's being said about them (much of it fair, some of it unfair), but there's no easy way for them to do that without getting dragged into a dialogue they don't want to have.  

You say that Hyde knows who you are.  If so, Hyde administrators can respond to you directly on this website.  I'd invite them to do just that.

Anonymous:
You know, this website does have a lot of negativity, but as far as credibility....no one has identified themselves, except Tommy and Lars partially.
So there could be only a handful of people posting, which gives very little in the way of starting a huge PR mess for Hyde.
There are always people who are unhappy with a product or service, but until you come clean with who you are, we could assume these posts are coming from an extremely vocal minority.

Lars:

--- Quote ---On 2005-12-01 07:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You know, this website does have a lot of negativity, but as far as credibility....no one has identified themselves, except Tommy and Lars partially.

So there could be only a handful of people posting, which gives very little in the way of starting a huge PR mess for Hyde.

There are always people who are unhappy with a product or service, but until you come clean with who you are, we could assume these posts are coming from an extremely vocal minority."

--- End quote ---


We could assume from your post that you are a Hyde faculty member.  Are you willing to identify yourself?

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-12-01 07:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You know, this website does have a lot of negativity, but as far as credibility....no one has identified themselves, except Tommy and Lars partially.

So there could be only a handful of people posting, which gives very little in the way of starting a huge PR mess for Hyde.

There are always people who are unhappy with a product or service, but until you come clean with who you are, we could assume these posts are coming from an extremely vocal minority."

--- End quote ---

Why are you not identifying yourself?  I know why I don't identify myself, but what is your reason?

Hyde's rhetoric about "what goes on in the room, stays in the room" is only for the students and parents.  Nothing is sacred at Hyde amongst the staff and because parents and students are sucked into devulging very intimate details of their lives, it could be Russian Roulette devulging our names.  I completely understand why someone would not want to identify themselves.  It is the same reason most parents walk away from Hyde after graduation, never to be seen again.  It is embarassing to be associated with Hyde.

As far as credibility, I don't think someone needs to identify themselves in order to be credible.  You only want to know so you can then look back in your files and see what dirt you have on the person!  The only people who would want to know who is posting is Hyde.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out how many posters are on this site just like it doesn't take a genius to figure out who is posting from Hyde.  It is obvious from the style of writing who the repeats are.  You can also tell whether the posters are on the east coast or west coast based on the "time" they write.  Then again they might have waking hours that don't fall into the norm.

Bottom line, it doesn't matter who any of us are.  IMHO there have been mostly legitimate claims on this site and possibly some that are an exaggeration.  I think that a bright person can figure it out.

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