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HYDE SCHOOL Questions about Finances
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-28 10:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-11-28 10:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You can see exactly what the school makes and how is spends it's money along with the top 5 salaried employees at http://www.guidestar.com
When you are a 501(c)3 non profit institution you have to file your numbers each year...
You'll see that NOBODY is making any money here and for once and for all this discussion thread can die a quick death...
AMEN!!"
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I'd like to direct your attention to IRS Form 990 filed by the Hyde School (Bath) for 2003. On page 27 of this IRS document, Malcolm Gauld's income is listed as $170,790 with an employee benefit plan contribution of $58,911. Laurie Hurd's income is listed as $94,000 with an employee benefit plan contribution of $14,111. The comparable IRS form for the Woodstock campus lists Duncan McCrann's income as $94,000 with an amployee benefit plan contribution of $14,285 (page 28). These figures are two years old.
Do you still think that, to quote you, "NOBODY is making any many here"?"
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What is even funnier are the benefits on top of this that no one is taking into consideration. These people have NO EXPENSES. This money goes right in the bank! Housing, food, etc is paid for guys! Also you did not take into consideration the net worth of the family with all of the properties they own.
There is so much more $$$ that you and I cannot see on a website! This is very interesting. Thank you whoever suggested we look it up on Guidestar!! Guess the Gaulds are stretching the truth quite a bit when they cry poverty!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-28 11:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-11-28 10:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-11-28 10:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You can see exactly what the school makes and how is spends it's money along with the top 5 salaried employees at http://www.guidestar.com
When you are a 501(c)3 non profit institution you have to file your numbers each year...
You'll see that NOBODY is making any money here and for once and for all this discussion thread can die a quick death...
AMEN!!"
--- End quote ---
I'd like to direct your attention to IRS Form 990 filed by the Hyde School (Bath) for 2003. On page 27 of this IRS document, Malcolm Gauld's income is listed as $170,790 with an employee benefit plan contribution of $58,911. Laurie Hurd's income is listed as $94,000 with an employee benefit plan contribution of $14,111. The comparable IRS form for the Woodstock campus lists Duncan McCrann's income as $94,000 with an amployee benefit plan contribution of $14,285 (page 28). These figures are two years old.
Do you still think that, to quote you, "NOBODY is making any many here"?"
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What is even funnier are the benefits on top of this that no one is taking into consideration. These people have NO EXPENSES. This money goes right in the bank! Housing, food, etc is paid for guys! Also you did not take into consideration the net worth of the family with all of the properties they own.
There is so much more $$$ that you and I cannot see on a website! This is very interesting. Thank you whoever suggested we look it up on Guidestar!! Guess the Gaulds are stretching the truth quite a bit when they cry poverty!"
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Don't forget that each of the wives/husbands of these listed administrators are also on the payroll. For instance Malcolms wife must make at least the same as Laurie Hurd. This would put the two Jr Gauld's at $250,000 a year, easy!! This of course is not including any of the perks and the fact like the last poster mentioned, they have no expenses!!
I'd like to know how they can create this sham! "Truth over Harmony?", "The Truth Will Set You Free?" Oh how I wish I was back in that auditorium listening to them tell us all how they are not getting rich off of this, and how they only want to make a difference in the world!! UGHHHHH! Liars, Liars, Liars!!
Anonymous:
We recently were thrown out of the Hyde School for having the temerity to question Joe Gauld's instant analysis of one of us (the parent of a second year senior). Joe became enraged, threw the parent in question out of the "seminar," and later that evening, we were invited to leave as a family.
The school has now decided that they have no moral, legal, or ethical obligation to return a penny of the full tuition/board we paid them at the beginning of this year.
Our legal case will follow, and we'll keep you apprised of it!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-29 00:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
"We recently were thrown out of the Hyde School for having the temerity to question Joe Gauld's instant analysis of one of us (the parent of a second year senior). Joe became enraged, threw the parent in question out of the "seminar," and later that evening, we were invited to leave as a family.
The school has now decided that they have no moral, legal, or ethical obligation to return a penny of the full tuition/board we paid them at the beginning of this year.
Our legal case will follow, and we'll keep you apprised of it!"
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I'm terribly sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience with Hyde. What you describe (Joe Gauld's "instant" and arrogant analysis) is predictable and typical. If you haven't read the postings on this website, you may find them helpful. Many others have experienced the kind of behavior you describe.
Based on other postings on this website, it seems clear that Hyde has been sued before. You may want your attorney to track down those lawsuits (one apparently involved a family that sued Hyde because of sexual harassment of a student by a Hyde faculty member).
Also, as others have suggested here, I strongly suggest you share your concerns with the organization that accredits Hyde: the New England Association of Schools and Colleges. They need to know about this incident. You can contact:
William Bennett
Director, Commission on Independent Schools
New England Association of Schools and Colleges
209 Burlington Road
Bedford, Massachusetts 01730-1433
phone: 781-271-0022
Good luck with your next steps.
Anonymous:
Thanks for that informative and speedy reply! Of course, we assume that Hyde is practiced at responding to law suits. There are a few wrinkles in this situation that should make it easier for us to forcefully present our views to a jury, should it come to that. I am not---yet--- at liberty to discuss these details. However, we plan on going public in the near future. At that time we will be welcoming contacts from others who may have had similar experiences with this institution.
Although the egregious misconduct of Hyde officials--- if exposed to the legal system and to the public--- could grievously damage its future, we are hoping that the administration will do some heavy lifting and introspection, and begin to act in accordance with the commendable ethics they invite others to practice.
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