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Happy Holidays John Underwood

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Ashtabula:

--- Quote from: "grad1" ---To paraphrase the big book in AA; those that can't get their lives together through the program are constutionally unable to be honest with themselves, thus doomed to be miserable. Look in the mirror.
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Hoping that John and his family have a happy holiday and a wonderful new year. Thanks for all that you and the other staff did for everyone.

none-ya:
Ashtabula, Tell us why we sing jingle bells.

lonewolf:
Zippidy Doo DA.....

none-ya:
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neveranaddict:
You know we ALL were brainwashed abused and abusers. I woke up last year and realized that The Seed changed my life in SO many ways. It has been over 30 years since my experience I have found both good and bad about what I got out of the Seed.  I know the bad has outweighed the good. I had not been an abuser of drugs OR alcohol. I had used them on occasion. My sister got busted because she was the out all night with her friends drunk as often as she could and either on uppers or downers whatever she could get her hands on.

I learned to lie so I could get through the program. And now from talking to former Straight staff members all the shit we did "working" the program was all BS because they based any promotions or movement through the program on how much they liked you. SO it was still peer pressure of the MOST negative kind. I didn't fight the process I entered it and did everything they told me to do. I did not want to get started over so I capitulated and did everything they wanted me to do. I learned how to read people instantly. And you do not want to piss me off cause I am still good at coming down on you if you cross me. this is just a short list of what I learned while in the Seed.

I understand that those who fought the program had a totally different experience and were abused and even tortured to make break them. Many of them left the program only to kill themselves within a few years.

There's a saying in the Straight group on FB: we were ALL hit by the same bag of rocks.

We all know what we endured while in the program. It was FUCKED up and not right but who understands what you went through better than another survivor. I am not saying those who see their experience as a positive thing are wrong or bad. They just have not woke up to the abusiveness of the program. Or the denial of basic human rights just because they were kids. The most fearsome thing to me is that there are legacy programs that still exist in 2012 that still practice those methods that have been proven not to work.  What I mean by legacy is the people who worked at The Seed and Straight are opening the same kinds of programs under different names in new states. It did not work then and it does not work now. Children are being brainwashed to think they are wrong and broken when all that is going on is the transition from child to adult. And when brain chemistry is changing the most from 12-18 years old that is when these institutions are messing with young people's brains. If you have struggled all your life or are still struggling and wondering why your life isn't working then maybe it is time to learn as much as you can.

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