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RMA staff I remember from RMA, you post yours from CEDU
maruska:
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--- Quote from: "Samara" ---You are right. We wouldn't know what its like to be a program parent. Because we don't stick our kids in programs.
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Of course you didn’t. The overwhelming majority of people don’t have to. Just like my other kids, they get through the tough patches on their own along with good parenting.
--- Quote ---But what we do know is how effectively programs BS parents. We know that quite well.
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Until you have spoken to kids (and their parents) who have been helped by programs then you don’t have sufficient information to conclude that. I have seen the marketing and kids who failed and kids who did well so I have a better perspective on whether or not the programs BS or not.
You have the disadvantage of seeing it from a kids perspective and then only those kids who didn’t do well which is only one facet.
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I thought you are just a program parent and talking just about your own experience with your daughter.....can you tell me more? where did you see all those kids?
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" --- No matter how much you try you can never know what it is like to be a program parent. But you pretend to know sometimes. So it needs to be able to go both ways. I can see things and pick up things that you would never be able to because you never saw a successful child complete a program.
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You're right. I've never abdicated my parental responsibilities as you did. I have, however, successfully raised two grown children, one of which scared the life out of me for years on end. Somehow, we managed without the abusive, emotional blackmail tactics of programs. I knew from my experience inside programs that the worst thing I could do for her would be to send her off to a mindfuck. As much as she scared me, it was MY job to help guide her through it. It was the single hardest thing I've ever done, but sooooooo worth it. I never broke the sacred trust with her the way program parents do when they send them away. She and I both knew that I couldn't save her, she had to save herself with her family's help and the help of some true professionals. She and I both knew that forcing her to change would've resulted in temporary changes that wouldn't mean anything, not to mention the aforementioned loss of trust.
--- Quote ---You need to be a little bit more tolerant and open minded about other peoples experiences and points of view imo.
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You need to man up and cite where you think I said anything about exaggerating my experiences in Straight.
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I am glad your child is doing well as is mine. I think each parent somehow finds the right paths for their children.
You need to "woman up" lol first and provide proof of you accusations. I have time and will wait. Let me know if you want to see the original post again to refresh your memory.
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Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---You need to "woman up" lol first and provide proof of you accusations. I have time and will wait. Let me know if you want to see the original post again to refresh your memory.
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Like I said....we all knew you'd weasel out of it. I gave links of what I see as you defending JRC. You don't agree that you were defending them so now you're using that as an excuse to back out on showing where you think I admitted anything like what you said.
Weasel, weasel, weasel.
C'mon.....just this ONCE be a man and back up what you say.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "maruska" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Samara" ---You are right. We wouldn't know what its like to be a program parent. Because we don't stick our kids in programs.
--- End quote ---
Of course you didn’t. The overwhelming majority of people don’t have to. Just like my other kids, they get through the tough patches on their own along with good parenting.
--- Quote ---But what we do know is how effectively programs BS parents. We know that quite well.
--- End quote ---
Until you have spoken to kids (and their parents) who have been helped by programs then you don’t have sufficient information to conclude that. I have seen the marketing and kids who failed and kids who did well so I have a better perspective on whether or not the programs BS or not.
You have the disadvantage of seeing it from a kids perspective and then only those kids who didn’t do well which is only one facet.
...
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I thought you are just a program parent and talking just about your own experience with your daughter.....can you tell me more? where did you see all those kids?
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Notice, maruska, how Whooter completely avoided your very good question in order to attack Anne instead. He feels he can win that one, but answering your question will only expose him for what he really is - a shill and phony "regular parent." This is just another example of how Whooter gets trapped in his own lies and then just tries to ignore it and pretend it never happened.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I think each parent somehow finds the right paths for their children.
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Interesting way to put it, Whooter. Aren't those kids allowed some say in finding their own paths in life?
Kinda reminds me of your comment about having a duty to mold and shape your children. Jes saying'...
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