Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Liscensure Questions
Anonymous:
. Food IS rationed. That's a well-established fact. I've personally seen it done. They call it "restrictions" diet.
Your right. It used to be done. The school stopped doing it probably five or more years ago.
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Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-19 10:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
""who benefits from the wood they chop?"
Poor people in the local community who still heat their houses with wood burning stoves. The kids deliver it to them.
Also, the students benefit from it by having fires in the lodge.
Staff are not allowed to use it.
"
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Under the terms spelled out below, HLA is in serious violation of the law.
Surely you jest when you say that the only forced labor is light-duty landscaping? I mean that's a complete lie and everyone who has ever been at HLA as a patient or a worker knows that's bunk.
I've seen kids work until they suffer from heat exhaustion and vomiting while doing mindless, undirected, non-beneficial punishment tasks.
You're full of it. And sugar-coating the least of the punishments.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-19 10:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
". Food IS rationed. That's a well-established fact. I've personally seen it done. They call it "restrictions" diet.
Your right. It used to be done. The school stopped doing it probably five or more years ago."
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Not according to recent patients. They confim that this is still happening.
Anonymous:
***Your right. It used to be done. The school stopped doing it probably five or more years ago.
Five years? No. The restrictions diet was in effect as of late 2001, possibly early 2002 or later. I would guess that it was changed around the time that ORS required them to apply for a license for RC.
Was a staff nutritionist hired? Who is now in charge of ensuring that meals are nutritionally adequate?
Any of you parents remember being told that the diet had been approved by the HD? And warned that your child might get 'sick' on the visit, after eating?
It would be helpful to know who is responding so one might determine the authenticity of the information. Not interested in a guess from Susie.
To: gdphinfo@dhr.state.ga.us
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:38:21 -0500
Hello,
Please route this inquiry to the appropriate person or department. My son is enrolled in a private school in Lumpkin county. The school has a policy that causes me concern. The Director of the program told parents that a teen was given a limited calorie diet while on "restriction". The diet consists of 2 individual boxes of cereal for breakfast with a carton of milk and a white bread and cheese sandwich, a cup of soup, and a piece of fruit for both lunch and dinner.
The head of the Nutrition Dept at my local community college warned that this diet, at less than half the USDA requirement for an active teen, was inadequate. While on restriction the teen is required to do extra physical training and subject to work details.
I am writing you because the Director told parents that while "sparse", the diet had been approved by the local health dept. Given the advice I received, and for my son's sake, I must question the validity of this.
I am requesting written verification and a professional opinion from your office. Specifically, I would like to know if your department gave permission to Hidden Lake Academy in Dahlonega, Ga. to offer this diet to children while on restriction and/or approved the diet, and under what conditions. I would also like to know if your office was told that it was common for a teen to be on restriction, and taking this diet for a month or longer. A professional opinion from a staff nutritionist regarding the diet would also be appreciated.
From: "David Oberhausen"
Cc: , "Jean Garner" , "Linda Truelove" , "Melody Stancil"
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:09:39 -0400
Subject: letter of inquiry to the state public health office
The staff that could be reached and colleagues and supervisors of those who could not, have given me the following information.
It would not be a typical service of the health department to provide recommendations on a school policy regarding what would be an appropriate diet for a student or students, whether on restriction or not. That would come under the purview of a school dietitian or consulting dietitian, most likely, and would be a matter to be oveseen by the state department of education. No one in our organization has indicated any knowledge of speaking with a school representative regarding diets for students on restriction, but two additional staff members should be available to speak with tomorrow. If I determine anything else on this I will notify you immediately.
It is not our normal role to issue opinions regarding hypothetical situations. There are professionals in the private sector who are equipped to do this, as you have indicated you are aware given conversations with your department head. As public employees we would not wish to be in competition with the private sector in providing services unrelated to our health department programs.
I hope I have allayed your concerns that the public health system has been involved in a situation such as you described, and that I have suggested an alternative route for following up on your concerns, that is, with the state department of education. I will follow up with the two absent employees as soon as possible, but I want to reiterate that it would be outside our normal procedures to get involved with a school regarding matters of limiting food availability as a matter of discipline.
I hope you get satisfactory answers to your concerns soon.
From: "Hensley, Timothy K."
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:34:32 -0400
Subject: RE: DNPA Inquiry or Comment
We checked with one of our nutritionists, please see the note below . . .
This woman has serious concerns and should talk with her child's medical provider and have her physician work with the school's medical advisor. She should have her child examined by her physician and work closely with the school to match his dietary needs. I have no idea what the child's weight and health status are like and any special nutritional concerns. From the data she provided the school menu sounds inadequate and not balanced.
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-19 05:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
""1. Food cannot be rationed.
2. Physical labor cannot be used as a punishment.
3. A state represenative must be available for greivances"
1. Food is not rationed.
2. If you consider raking leaves, pulling weeds, and chopping wood physical labor then, yes, HLA has physical labor. My father called it hard work and he gave me more of it when I misbehaved. If a parent reading this cannot handle their child doing some hard work as a consequence, then they should not enroll their child at HLA.
3. Anyone can report greivances to Child Protective Services if they have a problem with something."
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1. If food isnt rationed now it certiannly used to be now didnt it. Was it okay then?
2. A parent should not enroll their child at HLA anyway, however that is not the current discussion. Considering its against state regulations HLA should not do it, considering they tell parents they dont do it they shouldnt do it, and considering the fact that it is systematically set up to save the school money. By using slave labor to do the regular maintainance around the school they dont have to pay anyone to do it. And that according to the Emancipation Proclamation is illegal.
3. Ummm are students permitted access to a phone without supervision? Can they write uncensored letters? Weve seen on here first hand what happens when students post things on websites such as this. So if they cant really have unfettered access to the outside world how are they able to bring their greivances to anyone without fear of consequence.
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