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Suzanne Gray - Mindless Troll and HLA Groupie

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Anonymous:
How in the world did I bring up the topic of suicide? I think your statement was probably the worst I have seen yet on this board. As far as my "tactics," I have none. I (much like you) choose to be myself and speak freely. I don't believe that I am taking a "high road." I have been pretty clear that I don't really care about your opinions of me or your comments. I have yet to "bitch" about anything you have said. Since I have not been at HLA for almost 5 years I cannot explain what they are currently doing there...I imagine they changed the restrictions policies because they felt they were inappropriate? So what exactly is your end goal in this line of questioning?

RobertBruce:

--- Quote ---On 2005-12-01 19:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"How in the world did I bring up the topic of suicide? I think your statement was probably the worst I have seen yet on this board. As far as my "tactics," I have none. I (much like you) choose to be myself and speak freely. I don't believe that I am taking a "high road." I have been pretty clear that I don't really care about your opinions of me or your comments. I have yet to "bitch" about anything you have said. Since I have not been at HLA for almost 5 years I cannot explain what they are currently doing there...I imagine they changed the restrictions policies because they felt they were inappropriate? So what exactly is your end goal in this line of questioning?"

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http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 1&start=20

take a look for yourself. The conversation had been discussing the amount of suicide attempts occuring at HLA. You made the apparently erroneous claim (without having the means of knowing) that while several students had hurt themselves only one had really attempted suicide. I asked you explain what constituted a real suicide attempt versus simply hurting ones self. You then stated there was a big difference (explaining nothing as to how you determine the difference) and then suggested I try it myself.

Now perhaps your memory fails you, again typical staff behavior. Remember only the sins of others (not that I sinned against you, just mocked) and completly forget your own.

Now youre claiming you dont have a tactic yet you seem to follow Bullfrogs school of thought to the letter. Again claiming youve never met her and all the times you two posted at almost the exact same time was just a coincidence. Your or rather her..who am I kidding she's not smart enough..the way Buchi instructed her to act is to avoid answering questions, detract from the issue with pointless comments that have no bearing, engaged in personal attacks on people and play the victim when they do the same to you, feign forgetfullness or innocence iregardless of the facts, and of course deny deny deny.

You have done nothing but bitch and make personal attacks and idle threats.

Im wondering since you havent been at HLA in five years, how were you able to claim there had only been one suicide attempt in the last three years.

Oh and Im asking you about changes in the restriction policies since when the policies were in place they were lauded as being very effective and reasonable. Why then the change? Does it suggest that those of us who suffered under it might have a legitimate complaint against the school?

Oh and you still havent answered my question regarding what you knew about kids being restrained.

Anonymous:
You are way off the mark with this one. If you can actually check IP addresses (as you have claimed in the recent past) I have never engaged in the conversations you just referenced. Even without the IP address you can tell by the dialogue, sentance structure, etc. I guess this is yet another example of how your rude responses are aimed at the wrong people. Your frequent use of "staff behavior" quips is somewhat humorus as every person choosing to work at HLA brings their own personality traits to the table.  That would be like me saying that your antagonistic comments and use of profanity is "typical student behavior" and expecting you to enjoy being lumped into a single category.  Obviously, not every student had the same mentality.  Moving on, I do recall you asking me about students being restrained in one of your posts. Again, I have no first hand knowledge of a student restraint during the time that I was there.

Anonymous:
So Tony, how does contributing to the unnecessary argument meet your needs?
If you used your user name, or signed your posts we wouldn't have had to read two pages of your defensive comments.
Why have you engaged RB in this manner? Then criticize him for the same.
Sign your posts, or you can expect to be confused with the regular staff that post anonymously.
Was this 'bait and confuse' strategy? That is typical staff behavior.

Anonymous:
To date, the issue at hand has been an issue between Robert and I. I don't think he needs any outside support (as he hasn't needed it so far). I can only imagine that many people don't sign their posts (much like you) for a variety of reasons to include: they are in a hurry, they don't want to personalize the conflicts that arise, or they just prefer to be anon. After engaging in an argument with Robert I chose to sign my post because I was responible for it. I really don't think I baited Robert but can respect that you apparently feel that way. If you actually go back and read my posts (difficult since many aren't signed?) I have more often than not supported his points or feelings, just not his tone.  As for my future posts...I will not be making any. I really don't see the point in arguing...it doesn't meet my needs. I honestly do feel there are many prgrammatic changes that should occur in TBS settings (not just HLA). Good luck with your crusade. I would encourage all of you to speak of firsthand experiences or verified facts versus conjecture.

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