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Comments from current Hyde students
Anonymous:
As a former Hyde parent, it is so obvious this person has no idea what he/she is writing about. Our son chose to go to Hyde and flourished while he was a student there. He is smart, athletic, just an all-around kind of guy, and he often says that if he hadn't had his experience at Hyde, he would have never developed and applied the skills and principles he has. After graduating from college two years ago, he went out into the business world and became very successful. He attributes much of his success to his experience at Hyde, saying he's glad the faculty at the school made him accountable for learning and pushed him beyond what he thought he could ever do.
He and I both see so many kids coming out of many schools afraid of their own shadows, protected by their parents who hover around them, micromanage their lives, and defend them when they're off-track at school. These kids often have no coping skills, are diagnosed with every mental illness, disorder, learning disability that exists, and their way of coping is to hang on to their parents for support well into adulthood, hang on to their diagnoses as a crutch to excuse them from any accountablility, and take their pill cocktails.
My guess is that the person who wrote this is one of those wimp kind of kids.
Lars:
To the former parent who thinks a wimp's been writing this stuff:
Maybe your kid discovered himself there, but for others like myself, the true discovery and growth occured after we escaped from their repressive one size fits all program.
I became more outgoing and personable AFTER I left.
I discovered I was a top student AFTER I left.
I became happy and confident AFTER I left.
And by the way, I was a lot tougher, both physically and mentally, than most of the true believers there. Believe it. :wink:
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-06 10:52:00, Anonymous wrote:
He and I both see so many kids coming out of many schools afraid of their own shadows, protected by their parents who hover around them, micromanage their lives, and defend them when they're off-track at school.
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And then there are people like you who have "people" to do that for them.
Tell me, former Hyde parent, how much did you benefit from discussing the private details of your marriage and other aspects of your personal life in front of the entire student body, parents and faculty? Do you think that's an appropriate thing to do? Do you do that in public in other settings? Do you think you'd be meeting the nice young men in their clean white coats if you did?
It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion.
--Joseph Goebbels
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-06 10:52:00, Anonymous wrote:
"As a former Hyde parent, it is so obvious this person has no idea what he/she is writing about. Our son chose to go to Hyde and flourished while he was a student there. He is smart, athletic, just an all-around kind of guy, and he often says that if he hadn't had his experience at Hyde, he would have never developed and applied the skills and principles he has. After graduating from college two years ago, he went out into the business world and became very successful. He attributes much of his success to his experience at Hyde, saying he's glad the faculty at the school made him accountable for learning and pushed him beyond what he thought he could ever do.
He and I both see so many kids coming out of many schools afraid of their own shadows, protected by their parents who hover around them, micromanage their lives, and defend them when they're off-track at school. These kids often have no coping skills, are diagnosed with every mental illness, disorder, learning disability that exists, and their way of coping is to hang on to their parents for support well into adulthood, hang on to their diagnoses as a crutch to excuse them from any accountablility, and take their pill cocktails.
My guess is that the person who wrote this is one of those wimp kind of kids."
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You are certainly entitled to your opinions about Hyde's benefits. Obviously, some people agree with you and, as this and other websites attest, many people vehemently disagree with you.
I am particularly troubled by your last comment: "My guess is that the person who wrote this is one of those wimp kind of kids." I have no idea to whom you're referring, but that kind of judgmental, dismissive language is exactly what is driving us away from Hyde. We are so tired of that sort of arrogance, and we've come across it repeatedly at Hyde. We've now talked with parents whose kids attend other schools where this kind of language and disrespect is not tolerated. At Hyde, unfortunately, it is typical. This is yet another example of the remarkable Hyde hypocrisy. Staff and parents love to talk about integrity and character, but their actual behavior seems to display just the opposite quality.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-06 10:45:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-11-06 01:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
And legally, the contract parents sign with Hyde gives Hyde the ability to stand in the place of the parent. That pre-empts virtually ALL free speech rights.
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Bullshit. Legally, ethically and logically, teenaged kids have a right to free speech. Most especially, everyone has a right to speak up about abuse that they experience or wittness. Your contract ain't worth the paper it's printed on once you cross that line, legally.
Ethically? How can you defend such a blatantly obvious double standard. From what I've read about Hyde, past and present, any kid or parent at any time is expected and required to take any kind of criticizm--no matter how private or humiliating in nature--w/o complaint or protest. And, at the same time, any criticizm of this or any other of the school, it's policies and practices or any person the Goulds place in authority, is to be stiffled, condemned and viewed as evidence of some moral flaw in the plaintiff.
You don't get out much, do ya? Cause I'm guessing you have to work pretty hard at cloistering yourself among fellow true believers in order to maintain your circular belief system.
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Perl Services
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Sorry Antigen. You are just proving your ignorance and on the legal point, you are completely wrong.
Let's start at the start. Children have free speech ONLY to the extent their parents allow it. A parent may contractually give another institution the same right....that is, they say in a contract, "we the parent agree to let you the institution have the same power and dominion over our child as we do". This is called "in loco parentis", and is the controlling law in most states, and last I knew for sure in MAINE.
Ethically, if you think a child has the right to say whatever they want, then I can only guess you are not a parent!
Students at Hyde ARE allowed to speak up and do ALL the time. In fact when I was there, students basically ran the school. But if a kid has a bad attitude or been out getting high or cheated on a test and is on 2-4, and then writes about how the school is abusive, that simply serves as evidence of their attitude and what gets challenged is NOT the free speech but the attitude.
Anyway, once again you are writing about the school that you never went to and don't know squat about except what you read from angry ex-students who don't disclose their back story.
I am open to a debate on free speech as an ethical matter, but legally you are wrong, and like Lars, your position is really based on the assumption that dissent is not permitted, and that's a load of crap.
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