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Comments from current Hyde students
Anonymous:
I suppose it's possible that Hyde would get nervous about students posting comments on this website once they go home (or to some other off-campus location). I would hope Hyde wouldn't try to suppress free speech. But . . . if Hyde tries to prevent students' free speech and tries to interfere with their rights, a number of us who are active on this website are likely to hear about that since we're parents of current students and/or have close connections with parents of current students. If we hear that Hyde is trying to prevent students from expressing their views, we can publicize that fact on this website and elsewhere -- that will simply add to the perception that Hyde is into cult-like, controlling tactics and is fearful of bad publicity via students' reports. I know that many parents who once were considering Hyde are now pursuing other alternatives because of this website and other negative Hyde publicity.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-04 17:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I suppose it's possible that Hyde would get nervous about students posting comments on this website once they go home (or to some other off-campus location). I would hope Hyde wouldn't try to suppress free speech.
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Free speach is not a legal right for minors, and Hyde serves "in loco parentis" for a parents rights in that regard.
And Hyde, like any parent, has quite a legitimate interest (if not more imperative) in addressing this.
If you can't see that, I feel for your children.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-04 18:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-11-04 17:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I suppose it's possible that Hyde would get nervous about students posting comments on this website once they go home (or to some other off-campus location). I would hope Hyde wouldn't try to suppress free speech.
--- End quote ---
Free speach is not a legal right for minors, and Hyde serves "in loco parentis" for a parents rights in that regard.
And Hyde, like any parent, has quite a legitimate interest (if not more imperative) in addressing this.
If you can't see that, I feel for your children."
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You're absolutely wrong: teenagers certainly have free speech rights. Their rights aren't unlimited, but they do have the right to express their opinions on all sorts of matters (Are you not aware that lots of case law protects students' right to express a whole range of opinion in student newspapers, even though school administrators may not like what students have to say?).
Also, Hyde has no control over students who are living at home on summer vacation, etc. Do you really believe that teenagers living away from Hyde do not have a legal right to express their opinion about their Hyde experience? Do you disagree that teenagers should learn how to express their opinions responsibly and thoughtfully, whether their opinions are critical or supportive of Hyde? I think it's important to remember that this is the United States--not some totalitarian state that severely restricts citizens' right to express their views.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-04 18:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-11-04 17:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I suppose it's possible that Hyde would get nervous about students posting comments on this website once they go home (or to some other off-campus location). I would hope Hyde wouldn't try to suppress free speech.
--- End quote ---
Free speach is not a legal right for minors, and Hyde serves "in loco parentis" for a parents rights in that regard.
And Hyde, like any parent, has quite a legitimate interest (if not more imperative) in addressing this.
If you can't see that, I feel for your children."
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Oh my -- Do you REALLY mean what you said: "Free speech is not a legal right for minors"? This sounds like such a typical Hyde response in that (1) it is arrogant and (2) ignores what's well known in the outside world. Teens have the right to say what they think so long as they don't infringe on the rights of others, disrupt the schools they attend or the schools' pedagogical mission, etc. Here's one analysis: http://www.nlg-la.org/student_rights.pdf
As the U.S. Supreme Court opined in Tinker v. Des Moines Independent School District, students do not "shed their constitutional rights...at the schoolhouse gate" (393 U.S. at 506)
Anonymous:
Thanks for providing that! Do those rules only apply to California?
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