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Closed door session on Iraq war
« on: November 01, 2005, 04:52:00 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/01/ ... index.html

Democrats force Senate into unusual closed session
Majority leader decries move as a publicity stunt

Tuesday, November 1, 2005; Posted: 3:30 p.m. EST (20:30 GMT)

 

FACT BOX
Rule XXI: Session with Closed Doors

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, envoked the following rule when he asked that the Senate to discuss pre-war intelligence.

1. On a motion made and seconded to close the doors of the Senate, on the discussion of any business which may, in the opinion of a Senator, require secrecy, the Presiding Officer shall direct the galleries to be cleared; and during the discussion of such motion the doors shall remain closed.
2. When the Senate meets in closed session, any applicable provisions of rules XXIX and XXXI, including the confidentiality of information shall apply to any information and to the conduct of any debate transacted.
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 | What Is This? WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democrats forced the Republican-controlled Senate into an unusual closed session Tuesday, questioning intelligence that led to the Iraq war and deriding a lack of congressional inquiry.

"I demand on behalf of the America people that we understand why these investigations aren't being conducted," Democratic leader Harry Reid said.

Taken by surprise, Republicans derided the move as a political stunt.

"The United States Senate has been hijacked by the Democratic leadership," said Majority Leader Bill Frist. "They have no convictions, they have no principles, they have no ideas," the Republican leader said.

Reid demanded the Senate go into closed session. The public was ordered out of the chamber, the lights were dimmed, and the doors were closed. No vote is required in such circumstances.

Pre-war intelligence at issue
Reid's move shone a spotlight on the continuing controversy over intelligence that President Bush cited in the run-up to the war in Iraq. Despite prewar claims, no weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, and some Democrats have accused the administration of manipulating the information that was in their possession.

Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was indicted last Friday in an investigation that touched on the war, the leak of the identity of a CIA official married to a critic of the administration's Iraq policy. (Full story)

"The Libby indictment provides a window into what this is really all about, how this administration manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to sell the war in Iraq and attempted to destroy those who dared to challenge its actions," Reid said before invoking Senate rules that led to the closed session.

Libby resigned from his White House post after being indicted on charges of obstruction of justice, making false statements and perjury.

Democrats contend that the unmasking of Valerie Plame was retribution for her husband, Joseph Wilson, publicly challenging the Bush administration's contention that Iraq was seeking to purchase uranium from Africa. That claim was part of the White House's justification for going to war.

A rare move
Sen. Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, said Reid was making "some sort of stink about Scooter Libby and the CIA leak."

A former majority leader, Lott said a closed session was appropriate for such overarching matters as impeachment and chemical weapons -- the two topics that last sent the senators into such sessions.

In addition, Lott said, Reid's move violated the Senate's tradition of courtesy and consent. But there was nothing in Senate rules enabling Republicans to thwart Reid's effort.

As Reid spoke, Frist met in the back of the chamber with a half-dozen senior GOP senators, including Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, who bore the brunt of Reid's criticism. Reid said Roberts reneged on a promise to fully investigate whether the administration exaggerated and manipulated intelligence leading up to the war.

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2005, 06:11:00 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2005, 06:12:00 PM »
You should see the flamewar going on over at Fark over this.  Hilarious reading if you have time.

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2005, 07:01:00 PM »
Video: Ever Wonder What 2000 Looks Like?
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2005, 08:30:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-01 16:01:00, Deborah wrote:

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Video: Ever Wonder What 2000 Looks Like?

Music by Pink Floyd



http://theunitedamerican.blogs.com/Movi ... /2000.html

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Hey Deb where did you find this? I was in tears watching it. I sent it to my mom and uncle that is a vet and they were pretty moved by it as well.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2005, 08:49:00 PM »
Okay I figured out where this camer from. Thanks for posting this link.
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