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Stone Mountain School
Anonymous:
oh, and such things as waving the inhertiance tax, something to that effect... we're not a substantially democratic nation, we're a capitalist nation with a formal democracy.
People can speak all they want, but so long as people think the status quo is in their best interest, or the best we're ever going to get because 'we' haven't seen better
taxing the poor, tax breaks for the rich, so-called trickle down.. philanthropy is the best we got absent effective social policy, resdist. of wealth by the govt. So, obviously we have a structural conflict of interest that MAY hinder or MAY improve conditions for those not in positions of power. Personally, that roll of the dice does not a democracy make.
Not sure how this whole freedom concept go twisted into freedom for certain people, the wealthy or those in the position of power (w resources) last time I checked democracy was a lil' bit more all encompassing than that and not exclusionary.
grapeape:
I found a most interesting book called Rumspringa. Rumspringa is little-known rite of passage among the Amish community. Now you would think the Amish being religious and all would be more strict than the average community. This particular right of passage not only allows but requires that when a kid turns 16 they "run around", i.e., they have no restrictions on drug and alcohol use, sex, using modern conveniences, partying etc. The purpose is for them to exercise have the experience to make a choice whether or not to commit to the community or be in the world. Interesting that this highly religious group acknowledges a person's inante intelligence and that being forced into compliance is not a "choice"; that "commitments" made in an absence of choice are meaningless. Different perspective, huh. The require kids to do exactly what thousands of others are getting locked up for. Reminds me of a family in town who allowed their girls to do exactly what they wanted; no restrictions on anything. Result: all the taboos lost appeal and focus. Today grown up they are great young women who have made much better choices then their peers whose parents were overinvolved in their kids "choices".
Anonymous:
I was sent to this place in 1997 got kicked out in 1998 on purpose this place is no picnic. It scares me to know it still is operating not going to go into to much details since I am 28 now and don't want to get sued for make statements against this place only decent person that worked there when I was there was a guy named Joel Davis he quit and I got kicked out shortly after that. If any parents or any staffers want to know my name and my account of this place email me at stonestn@gmail.com with stone mountain as the subject
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---I was sent to this place in 1997 got kicked out in 1998 on purpose this place is no picnic. It scares me to know it still is operating not going to go into to much details since I am 28 now and don't want to get sued for make statements against this place only decent person that worked there when I was there was a guy named Joel Davis he quit and I got kicked out shortly after that. If any parents or any staffers want to know my name and my account of this place email me at stonestn@gmail.com with stone mountain as the subject
--- End quote ---
You cant get sued for anything you write thats true.
If yor are very afraid of being sued you can use a proxy. Just tell the truth. 28 is too old to still be scared
jsambo1:
We sent our son to Stone mtn. school in the last six years. The school had a good reputation but had just been purchased by Aspen. I agree it is wrong to nit-pick these places after we have made the decision to let someone else do what we have had such difficulty accomplishing. We were exhausted and at the end of our rope and needed help but I don't think the camp (not a school) is qualified to deal with the troubled youngsters sent to this place. A lot of complicated youths are delt with by untrained personnel, with a one-size-fits-all formula. There was not a single certified psychologist on the campus and so all psychological services were outsourced to psychologist and psychiatrist in Asheville. The reports of the youths behaviors were related by untrained counselors and their treatment plans were carried out by the young counselors on duty in the individual cabins.
The camp has a progressive level system that all are supposed to work on and succeed at or suffer numerous penalties. My son was able to progress up the level system to a certain point but then would make a mistake and have to start at the beginning. THe punishment system ran from having to eat your supper outside in any weater, to hours and hours sitting in an open field. The final payoff of the levels system was a rewards cabin for those who have been totally indoctrinated and accept the programs goals. THis was also the only way out of the school so those who could not concentrate for long enough on the levels (remember these kids mostly had ADD) had to come up with some way on their own to get out.
Enough whining from me on this experience. Most of the counselors were very nice and energetic just young, inexperienced poorly managed and receiving very little training. No one mishandled my child physically and the level system and rewards/punishment were presented to the parents before admission. My child had a year to read a lot of books, learn to get along with fourteen others in a cabin heated by wood they had to cut themselves.
If the camps goals were simply to provide breathing space for the families and outdoor living experiences they would have gotten a good grade but as a place providing psychological support for troubled youths then they are not worth the $5000 a month the place charges.
jsam
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