Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Straight, Inc. and Derivatives
Finally talked to my other friend who was sent to wildnernes
gr8ful2aarc:
Losers The thing I find the funniest is you all assume that only aarc staff are the only ones posting.It is not true I know of graduates that post here because we believe aarc helped us. No we are not all staff.
I also wanted to point out how different AARC is from KIDS. At AARC there is about 30 clients at KIDS there was 300. AARC does not belt loop or "motivate" to get up in raps.AARC does not "regress" clients for listening to old music,seeing old friends or having an impure thought.The graduates are not required to work on staff it is a choice.AARC is certified by social services KIDS was not.Dr.V does have a degree you are not looking in the right place (obviously because I found it)(( l.o.l))Just thought I'd throw my thoughts in.
velvet2000:
Sticks and stones - very mature. I'll say it agin (I don't know why I bother) but Vause does not have a degree in psychology which he has claimed too, he didn't have it anywhere before and he doesn't have it now. Even if his story was true that he obtained it in another province and just didn't get around to registering in Alberta, why would someone do that? Because they knew that either for some reason they couldn't register, or that they didn't want to have to abide by the rules of a registered psychologist. Either way that's not his case.
AARC does not belt loop, motivate or have 300 kids because SS wouldn't allow it. Kids and The Straights recieved government money as well. AARC does use the exact same "theraputic program" which is what a cult is made out of. Straight based programs aren't cults because someone held on to someone's belt loop.
Oh, and they don't regress kids for listening to music or talking to old friends! Once again, I don't know what AARC you're talking about, but the one I was in did!
And please, there are only two people which are staff, and I believe that one other person posted here on my site! Have you ever heard of "tracking"?
ramprato:
you're the one lost......... I don't care about the 30/300 racial, It doesn't matter if AARC uses beltlooping or not, those kids are still surround (at all times) and discouraged from leaving by there peers, so obviously AARC is still making the kids do their dirty work. Crowding a person into submission still gives the recipient (the one being mind raped) a dog-on-a-leash mentality. You trying to put off AARC as a kinder and gentler "Kids Center" doesn't work, try again. Are they still telling 13 year old little girls if they don't "confess" their sex life and talk about the "sluts" they were???, hell yes they are and don't lie about it, Vause is one sick bastard making those kids in there "confess" their sexual situations.
Do you know what public "confession" does to someone's LONG TERM esteem when you first tell it to the group and then the parent in order to "progress"? Makes you feel about an inch high if your lucky and lower than whale @#%$ for a long time if you don't seek real help from a good therapist. I know plenty of people that have gone out and lived some sad lives because that was due to the worse self esteem these kinds of mind rape mills gave them..that is so sick.
They can't be set back for "listening to old music,seeing old friends or having an "impure thought?"" What do you construe to be an "Impure thought"? Who the hell made you God? How wonderful, listening to old music or seeing old friends won't get them set back, I'm for Missouri (The show-me state) on that one sure, I'll believe it when I see it. I bet they still can't just get up and leave the very minute they want, I bet they all think (because they are still told) that their parents and family want nothing to do with them and in fact encouraged to tell them that whenever possible, abandonment always makes one feel soooooo much more confident about themselves, don't you agree?
"The graduates are not required to work on staff it is a choice.AARC is certified by social services KIDS was not.Dr.V does have a degree you are not looking in the right place (obviously because I found it)(( l.o.l))Just thought I'd throw my thoughts in."
Whatever, I know this without even walking in that place, Vause will do anything in his power to keep his meal ticket running, if he obviously doesn't care about turning a mind to mush, if things got desperate, why would he care about somebody's "choice" to be on staff or not? You still don't specify where, when, and how Vause obtained this "degree", that was a simple request, most people don't have any problem saying what there educational background is, what seems to be the problem here?, why do I feel like we have to pull teeth with you?
Big deal, AARC is "certified" by social services. In America, KIDS was certified by Blue Cross and CIGNA because we don't have socialized medicine, so what's your point? So glad you threw your thoughts in, can't wait for your next batch of limp buisquits to shingle the roof with! lol
Antigen:
What have I lost? "The thing I find the funniest is you all assume that only aarc staff are the only ones posting."
I find it funny that you would say that. I never thought it was only Vause posting. I keep mentioning "Vause and his groupies". Actually, I'm surprised and rather pleased that Miller Light is posting at all. In his hay-day, Father Cashin had people to do that sort of thing for him. Ya'll must be getting a little low on staff and moral for him to stoop to dialoging with druggielosers like us, huh?
"At AARC there is about 30 clients at KIDS there was 300."
Not when we shut them down. By the time we got done with them (for the time being) the group size was down around 30. The Sarasota Straight group dwindled down to around 40 or 50 after the state attorney started investigating. That seems to be a threshhold of some kind. SAFE is experiencing a similar crisis. SAFE, btw, is certified by all of the proper state and county licensing agencies too. Of course, it helps to have cult members installed in all the right places within those oversight agencies.
But I'm not so interested in the trivial differences between the various branches. I'm more concerned about some disconcerting similarities.
There's the warped implimentation of the 72 hour law. Who needs the hand of a child on another child's beltloop when you can bring force of law to bear, eh? Look, we all know where Miller Light learned his craft. Anyone going to try and deny the historic public record?
But, most disconcerting of all is a story recounted by one young lady on the first of this month. You can re-read it by clicking on the following link: Sleepless In Canada
As I recall, none of you Program devoute have refuted the factuality of what this young lady is saying. And, based on my own extensive experience with the Program, I don't doubt it. I've seen the same sort of thing happen over and over again; you just couldn't make this s.h.i.t up. Sure, if you get an invitation to join staff, you have a choice. I remember how demoralized I was when I got tapped for staff trainee 20 years ago. I'd planned on never darkening the doorway of that warehouse ever again once I seventh stepped. But then I was faced with this choice; stick around and be a good little Straightling and pretend I'm just pleased and honored beyond all measure over the chance to 'give back' by moving 'up' to staff or risk getting set back or started over if I refused. Some damned choice!
See, these fallacious arguments and personal attacks don't work so well outside of a strictly controled environment. If you want to engage in dialog out in the real world, you'll have to do better than that.
-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
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gr8ful2aarc:
Whatever When you guys have been to AARC and made your own observations then I would maybe listen to your views.AARC was started as KIDS but is not KIDS.You think you know but you don't.
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