Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Press Briefing in DC
Anonymous:
I don't think I know. Its you who ever you may be who is still mulling over the use to be.....
Then you didnt know you thought you did.. Get on with life I have.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-20 16:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Dolphin,
I have talked to many kids and parents. None had a happy,pleasant thing to say about their experience.
The ones who have happy stories are the programed parents. Their kids are sad faced. I have been looking and looking for the websites where the happy program kids are writing their stories.
Can you find one for us. Happy, glad to have gone stories."
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I have looked around and havent found many. Most of the active sites are people who are very passionate, excited, angry, lots of energy. Most of the kids I met are busy moving on, trying to catch up with school and some teen years they lost. I have seen a few report in on this site but their stories arent received very well here by some and others may be reading but dont want to be hammered, labled stepford kids etc, so they move on (thats just speculation on my part, putting myself in their shoes etc.)
I dont think all program parents are happy, some dont do well having their kids away for so long and then coming home grown up, graduating from High school and on to college etc. There are a lot of missed years there for some, not easy for most.
Anonymous:
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE HECK THIS IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN?????
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-20 16:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
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I don't think I know. Its you who ever you may be who is still mulling over the use to be.....
Then you didnt know you thought you did.. Get on with life I have."
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Anonymous:
Ya know, I used to really love dolphins..........when I was vacationing in Mexico I even swam with the dolphins!
Now, I don't like dolphins.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-20 13:56:00, Dolphin wrote:
"Sounds to me like another misquote...Ken said what???
Anyone that reads newspapers and magazines or watches news reports can see that it's all about selling stories, not about the truth. Too bad. Many reporters could make a huge impact in more positive ways than writing stories that could eventually kill teens beceause the parents believed the crap the reporters wrote and didn't get effective help.
My opinion of the ?These people who want to stop all the progress because they have all the answers are wackos. They are just out of control,? Kay said."... is: He wasn't saying that all the doctors, etc, were wackos. I read it as he was saying the ones that don't know the truth are just blindly believing reports like ISAC, or other slam sights (like this one) and not talking with even a few of the hundreds of families that had positive results. All they want to do is save their drug prescribing practices...
If they put out a message to these families, they would be happy to talk and Not the ones handpicked by Ken Kay or other program executives. "
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You sound like you just came from WWASPS Rebuttal site... Tell me this, what reporter recommended anything? All I've heard is the reporters repeating accounts from the kids about what they experienced at certain programs... I do not think the reporters ever said if your child is screwed up just leave him that way and let him die... no they are merely pointing out that a lot of these programs (especially wwasps) can be dangerous and that you'd better research it before you send them away... is that really too much to ask for?
As for your assumption of what "Ken" meant... So you think that all of these people sposoring this action don't know what they are talking about? You did read all the sponsors didn't you? That's an awful lot of very well respected ignorami huh? I think what so many of you supporters don't get is the fact that if one child, let alone a protracted onslaught of children, has been abused then there is a problem... Jay Kay has admitted of past abuses, and did you not read the Ken Kay quote on the other page from 99? How do you defend that one? And why the hell do you guys seem to think that this is the only damn place to send them? There are literally thousands, and yet you stick by the ones that have had all of their other over-seas facilities raided and shut down for abuse... and you really think of yourself as a parent... its so sick... everytime I think about people defending it, with full knowledge of what is going on and all the warning flags out there... its so damn sick to send your kid to one of these places anyway... jesus
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