Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Press Briefing in DC
BuzzKill:
Heres the original source of Kenny's famous quote:
http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/des ... rate.shtml
Other criticism of the organization came earlier this year from a company executive shortly after he temporarily left its staff.
"These people are basically a bunch of untrained people who work for this organization," Ken Kay told the Denver Rocky Mountain News in an interview before he rejoined Teen Help as a vice president. "So they don't have credentials of any kind. ...
"We could be leading these kids to long-term problems that we don't have a clue about because we're not going about it in the proper way. ...
"How in the hell can you call yourself a behavior modification program -- and that's one of the ways it's marketed -- when nobody has the expertise to determine: Is this good, is this bad?"
If you've not read the Desperate Measure's series, you should.
Anonymous:
People who think that residential treatment facilities for teens should have oversight and regulation are "wackos" and "clowns?"
Are you saying these programs should continue to be unregulated, Dolphin?
TheWho:
Who is fooling who?
1. The mental health industry has been shrinking (no pun intended) for decades in part due to medications and fix all drugs (Prozac etc.) which you can get from your primary MD. Do you think they want to jump in and shut everything down? No way, they want oversight, to put there controls in, do control studies, look at how many kids do well how many fail. Improve the system and create jobs for their field.
2. The government on the other hand isn?t going to get involved to shut things down either. That has never happened once (look at smoking) They want regulation they want a piece of it. They aren?t going to spend tax payers dollars to shut things down. The parents will send their kids off shore.
3. These private schools couldn?t get a loan from a bank to by a paint brush. It is all private money. The banks dont want to get involved because it is too risky, someone could sue and shut the whole school down. So once the feds regulate and put the "Good housekeeping seal" on some of these places, the banks will get loan guarantees and start lending these schools money so they can expand.
4. If the Feds guarantee the loans they are going to want the schools to accept low income kids.
5. If the feds and mental health people see a benefit after monitoring these schools for a few years BCBS and other insurers and the like will be forced to consider paying a portion if deemed necessary by a school or doctor.
6. The more schools that open the lower the price will get and the more affordable it will become for middle income families (thats the target audience) Right now there is a need but the private schools are too expensive for most.
7. Some of the lower end schools like I have heard about str8, seed etc. will probably go under and some of the higher end school will have to offer something special to stay in buisness but the majority will grow and thrive.
8. If people are mortgaging their houses and future to purchase somethign and it continues to grow the government is going to step in and try to get their shre thru regulation etc.
Do you really think all this is happening so they can shut an industry down?
How many think the teen help industry will be gone in 10 years, raise your hands....
Anonymous:
Nobody is saying that there isn't a place for private boarding schools... In Fact Dr. Friedman noted at the press conference that there is a need for some certain types of boarding schools... in particular, ones that have oversight and a proven and accepted by its peers program... WWASPS doesn't even come close to that... But another main point is that parents are jumping the gun with offing their kids to these places... More times than not, an approach that involves the kid's family and is not "prison" like will do wonders for a kid...
As Dr. Huffine and I discussed some of these things, he also noted that in his practice, he has an amazing success rate with kids by just meeting with them on a regular basis and talking through things (granted he is an exceptional person to talk to and probably more effective than others)... Many times kids react in the ways they do because they don't have someone to let it out with, or so many other issues that a well-trained mental health expert can remedy shortly...
I think what I just wrote might be a bit skewered..please forgive me :smile:
Anonymous:
Dolphin,
I have talked to many kids and parents. None had a happy,pleasant thing to say about their experience.
The ones who have happy stories are the programed parents. Their kids are sad faced. I have been looking and looking for the websites where the happy program kids are writing their stories.
Can you find one for us. Happy, glad to have gone stories.
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