Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Press Briefing in DC
Antigen:
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You aren't (or never were) a PURE parent volunteer right?
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You first. Are you now or have you ever been affiliated w/ the Communist party?
Please, let's not go there. Every last parent who has firsthand experience w/ this industry got it by being reeled in by a slick edcon or other industry marketer. Some of those who wind up looking over this site were, indeed, taken in by the very charismatic, ambitious and successfull, Sue Scheff. Get over it already!
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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Anonymous:
Charles, where did you get that Ken Kay quote about BM schools? The orginal source should be forwarded to the media reporting his new "clown" and "wacko" statements!
Anonymous:
It was the June 17th, 2003 NY Times article that quoted it (and where I first read it)... but they got it from a 1999 Rocky Mountain News article...
Which is absolutely amazing considering his son was currently running Tranquility Bay... Here's the full quote from the article
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In a 1999 interview with The Rocky Mountain News, however, Mr. Kay, who at that time had left the Wwasps organization, criticized its programs and staff.
The staff was "a bunch of untrained people," he said, according to the newspaper. "They don't have credentials of any kind."
"We could be leading these kids to long-term problems that we don't have a clue about because we're not going about it in the proper way," he said. "How in the hell can you call yourself a behavior-modification program ? and that's one of the ways it's marketed ? when nobody has the experience to determine: Is this good, is this bad?" Link to full article : http://nospank.net/n-k52.htm
Anonymous:
I would like to send that on to the Salt Lake Tribune, and maybe they could add that tidbit... but currently their website is down and I have a meeting to get to... so I'll send it off later on today...
Dolphin:
Sounds to me like another misquote...Ken said what???
Anyone that reads newspapers and magazines or watches news reports can see that it's all about selling stories, not about the truth. Too bad. Many reporters could make a huge impact in more positive ways than writing stories that could eventually kill teens beceause the parents believed the crap the reporters wrote and didn't get effective help.
My opinion of the ?These people who want to stop all the progress because they have all the answers are wackos. They are just out of control,? Kay said."... is: He wasn't saying that all the doctors, etc, were wackos. I read it as he was saying the ones that don't know the truth are just blindly believing reports like ISAC, or other slam sights (like this one) and not talking with even a few of the hundreds of families that had positive results. All they want to do is save their drug prescribing practices...
If they put out a message to these families, they would be happy to talk and Not the ones handpicked by Ken Kay or other program executives.
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