Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
Legislation for Unregulated Boarding Schools
Anonymous:
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On 2006-02-21 11:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
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"How do I sign onto this letter? I am a survivor of a wilderness program and hyde school."
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E-mail Dr Pinto.
She is also taking stories as well, either in detail or just a breif summary, feelings, etc..
APinto@fmhi.usf.edu "
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Yes, by all means share your experiences at Hyde (the bad and the good) with Dr. Pinto. These people are very interested in exploring what happens at schools like Hyde, especially with respect to students whose needs (mental health, etc.) can't be met by the staff the school employs. My own experience at Hyde was very harmful. They definitely don't have the ability to provide mental health services to many of the Hyde students who need them. "
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I keep hearing about how bad Hyde is for kids with "mental health" issues. Over and over again I see posts about mental health and how damaging Hyde School is for different disorders that kids have. What about all the kids who sign up for Hyde thinking that their grades will improve because Hyde supposedly helps kids self esteem! This is just as damaging! They lie to the parents and tell them how great the kids will do scholastically as long as they follow the program. BULL!! I am now in college after doing a long stretch at Hyde. I was one of the more obedient kids who followed the program to the letter. Little good did it do me in school! My college Biology Professor cannot believe I ever took a science in high school from how much I struggle with this introductory course.
I struggle a lot in college because of the poor study skills I learned at Hyde Some kids might do well in college, but it isn't because of Hyde. My feeling is that if someone is doing well in college after graduating from Hyde, it is because they learned good skills at home before going to Hyde.
I strongly urge parents not to consider Hyde as a school that helps kids self esteem. I learned some good things while at Hyde, but studying was not one of them. Hyde has made me feel worse about myself now that I am in college on my own. I realize how behind I am compared to other kids who went to public school or good private schools. It is not a good feeling.
I am happy for those kids who feel they gained something from Hyde, but most of the ones who I graduated with aren't doing so hot. You can't believe the promotional materials written by Hyde It is not true that 98% of the graduates attend a four year college. I don't know how they can say this.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-21 16:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-02-21 15:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-02-21 11:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
"
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"How do I sign onto this letter? I am a survivor of a wilderness program and hyde school."
--- End quote ---
E-mail Dr Pinto.
She is also taking stories as well, either in detail or just a breif summary, feelings, etc..
APinto@fmhi.usf.edu "
--- End quote ---
Yes, by all means share your experiences at Hyde (the bad and the good) with Dr. Pinto. These people are very interested in exploring what happens at schools like Hyde, especially with respect to students whose needs (mental health, etc.) can't be met by the staff the school employs. My own experience at Hyde was very harmful. They definitely don't have the ability to provide mental health services to many of the Hyde students who need them. "
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I keep hearing about how bad Hyde is for kids with "mental health" issues. Over and over again I see posts about mental health and how damaging Hyde School is for different disorders that kids have. What about all the kids who sign up for Hyde thinking that their grades will improve because Hyde supposedly helps kids self esteem! This is just as damaging! They lie to the parents and tell them how great the kids will do scholastically as long as they follow the program. BULL!! I am now in college after doing a long stretch at Hyde. I was one of the more obedient kids who followed the program to the letter. Little good did it do me in school! My college Biology Professor cannot believe I ever took a science in high school from how much I struggle with this introductory course.
I struggle a lot in college because of the poor study skills I learned at Hyde Some kids might do well in college, but it isn't because of Hyde. My feeling is that if someone is doing well in college after graduating from Hyde, it is because they learned good skills at home before going to Hyde.
I strongly urge parents not to consider Hyde as a school that helps kids self esteem. I learned some good things while at Hyde, but studying was not one of them. Hyde has made me feel worse about myself now that I am in college on my own. I realize how behind I am compared to other kids who went to public school or good private schools. It is not a good feeling.
I am happy for those kids who feel they gained something from Hyde, but most of the ones who I graduated with aren't doing so hot. You can't believe the promotional materials written by Hyde It is not true that 98% of the graduates attend a four year college. I don't know how they can say this."
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I agree with you completely. Not only is Hyde unable to help so many of its students who have serious mental health issues, the school provides a very mediocre education. For many Hyde students the academic experience is far below typical schools. Academics at Hyde just aren't a major priority and lots of Hyde graduates seem to struggle in college. Sure, some Hyde kids do well in college, but I agree that it's not because Hyde provided them with such a good education. I think Hyde is okay for a very small percentage of students who go there with attitude problems. For the rest, Hyde is a terrible place to go if you're looking for a solid education or help with serious emotional problems. Hyde doesn't work for lots of students. Just look at the drop-out rate from Hyde.
Anonymous:
You say to look at the "dropout" rate at Hyde. How can you look at it? Hyde doesn't put the true facts out there. The only way we all know how bad the dropout rate is for both students and faculty is because we were a part of Hyde and know the truth. Those parents considering Hyde who listen to the promotional rhetoric are the ones who are in for a rude awakening!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-22 07:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You say to look at the "dropout" rate at Hyde. How can you look at it? Hyde doesn't put the true facts out there. The only way we all know how bad the dropout rate is for both students and faculty is because we were a part of Hyde and know the truth. Those parents considering Hyde who listen to the promotional rhetoric are the ones who are in for a rude awakening!"
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The best way to look at this is to identify the number of students who enroll at Hyde and the percentage who leave the school prior to graduation. All the available evidence suggests that this drop out rate is enormously high. Of course, whether Hyde administrators will reveal those numbers is another matter; these figures don't help with Hyde's PR (public relations). However, those of us who have been affiliated with Hyde for years see the drop out rate with our own eyes. It's not hard to do a body count. Also, if you hang around Hyde long enough you hear lots and lots of stories about the kids/families who leave the school.
Anonymous:
I was at Hyde for 2 1/2 years. The roster that I have from my first year tells it all. There were only a handful on this list who ended up graduating with me. Yes, I mean handful! What is worse is at least 50% of the faculty was also gone. This was not an unusual 2 1/2 years. I took a look at the current roster and see the same stats. The staff that were at Hyde my senior year are down to about 25% now! I have never heard of such a high turnover at any other school!
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