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Duct Tape
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--- Quote ---On 2005-10-04 16:35:00, Bola wrote:
"duct tape? yes. making them lie face down in the sand all day, only in extreme cases. the worst i ever saw was this kid who was a level 3 and flipped out one day. i remember him talking back to one of the samoan fathers, and they tackled him in the sand, dragged him to a small fale, and taped him to a table. they didnt let us on that half of the beach for the next few days, but i remember getting within site one day, and he was yelling at them, so they sprayed him with mortein. (australia's brand of aerosol bug killer) that was the worst i ever saw.
duct tape happened but only if there was no other way. i was in isolation many times; i never got duct taped.
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On 2005-10-04 07:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I heard some fucked up shit about Samoa...is it true? They duct tape kid's mouths shut? Make them lie face down in the sand all day? Had an open sewer system next to the showers? A girl actually killed herself and the staff just wiped it up with student's towels and then made the kids go wash them?
Just rumors?"
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Whoa, wait a minute here. He was isolated and restrained for several days and sprayed with POISON? WTF is up with that? Also, if you were allowed to actually see a kid being sprayed with poison, what went on that you didn't see?
THAT IS FUCKED UP BEYOND BELIEF.
Bola:
"Bullshit. WWASP and their supporters always love to say that there was "no other way"."
hey i was there for 2 years, no one ever duct taped me. what would you suggest the samoans do with kids who disrespect them? if you knew anything about samoan culture, this wouldn't be so shocking. in america, we are taught that all hitting is abuse. in samoan culture, they are very physical. they are the most loving, and fun to be around, group of people. if you arent an asshole, and respect them, they are your best friend. a lot of what people are calling abuse, wasnt part of the "program" it was because somebody disrespected a 350 pound samoan guy. not a smart idea, in or out of the program.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 06:42:00, Bola wrote:
""Bullshit. WWASP and their supporters always love to say that there was "no other way"."
hey i was there for 2 years, no one ever duct taped me. what would you suggest the samoans do with kids who disrespect them? if you knew anything about samoan culture, this wouldn't be so shocking. in america, we are taught that all hitting is abuse. in samoan culture, they are very physical. they are the most loving, and fun to be around, group of people. if you arent an asshole, and respect them, they are your best friend. a lot of what people are calling abuse, wasnt part of the "program" it was because somebody disrespected a 350 pound samoan guy. not a smart idea, in or out of the program. "
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Those kids who were at Paradise Cove were NOT Samoan. The people who managed PC weren't Samoan either. These kids were sent there to get help. No matter how you spin it, what went on over there is considered abuse in America. And since these are American children, incarcerated at an American institution, they should expect American standards of care.
There's an American school in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, for the children of American military and civilians working in SA. Saudi law permits public whipping, public executions, and maiming people for minor offenses. Does that mean those American kids should be getting their hands cut off for stealing? Hey, after all, Saudi culture is very physical, and that's what the law says. :roll:
Anonymous:
There is no excuse for abuse. Female circumcision in Africa is also part of the local culture, but that doesn't make it right. There is no excuse for the way kids are treated in these programs. It is criminal and wrong.
Anonymous:
Female circumcision is part of the culture in certain African countries, but that doesn't make it right. What happened at Paradise Cove-- and continues to happen in the WWASP facilities that are still operating-- was and is criminal and wrong, and there's no excuse for such treatment of children.
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