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Rape at Hyde
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--- Quote ---On 2005-10-03 06:49:00, HydeFan wrote:
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On 2005-10-03 06:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"HydeFan,
He/She is right about the fact that Hyde does have a legal duty to report crimes no matter who it happened to."
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Hmmmm. While not an expert, I am not sure this is true. Based on some searches I just did, I learned:
In general, there is no duty for any private party to report a crime unless that state has passed a statute to the contrary.
There are probably mandatory reporting obligations for child sexual abuse in Maine http://www.smith-lawfirm.com/mandatory_reporting.htm
The reporting obligation (which for the model law came into effect in 1996) seems to be limited to situations where the abuse is by a parent or caretaker responsible for the childs welfare.
Anyway, I only spent 5 minutes searching on this so I could be wrong, and would be interested in what anyone else finds, but as far as I can tell, there was no obligation to report, and keeping the matter private (IF IT HAPPENED AT ALL!) was appropriate at the discretion of the family involved."
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Yes, you are wrong. Teachers and therapists both are legally obligated to report child abuse. It is mandated by law in every state of our union.
Any teacher or staff member who did not report this abuse has violated the law and should be terminated and prosecuted.
HydeFan:
Damn, you really want me to do your work for you, don't you. Ok, more web research responding to your comment:
"Yes, you are wrong. Teachers and therapists both are legally obligated to report child abuse. It is mandated by law in every state of our union."
DUH! Of course they are. What you have missed is that child abuse is NOT (in Maine) defined as child on child abuse.
Citation: Tit. 22, ยง 4002 says Abuse or neglect means a threat to a child?s health or welfare by physical injury or impairment, by a person responsible for the child.
Read the last clause again. This is not about Child on Child. Mandatory disclosures (in this case) only apply to abuse BY A PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHILD.
Do your own searches and see what else you can find at http://nccanch.acf.hhs.gov/general/lega ... es/search/
Again, maybe I am wrong, but all you have so far is naked accusations and unsupported assertions of the law.
To return this channel to its previous broadcasting format, I reiterate:
1. If you are going to claim you know the law, then give us a link. Otherwise, I believe you are confused about disclosure obligations.
2. If you find something, I am open to being wrong, but then you would still need to show:
a. it was in effect at the time of the alleged event (most disclosure laws seem to be post-80s) and
b. that nothing was ever reported.
Good luck. My hunch is, you simply chose the wrong example to try and make a point about Hyde having double standards.
And guess what, if that's your point, I won't disagree, as I am sure at times they have. No one claims Hyde was perfect. Far from it, they are a complex institution, working with complex people, in possibly one of the most challenging time of many of their (students) lives.
IMHO, they were better than anything out there FOR ME, and for MANY MANY MANY I know who attended there, including current members of the state department, doctors, lawyers, business execs, teachers, builders, military leaders and other highly successful people.
I am sorry it was not the same for you.[ This Message was edited by: HydeFan on 2005-10-03 09:57 ]
Anonymous:
It happened in the 90's
Anonymous:
I got the following off the website of The Department of Human Services Bureau of Children and Family Services
REPORTING OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT
The Report: Maine law says that anyone who suspects that a child is being abused or neglected must make a report to Department of Human Services. People who work with children and families are also required by law to make that report.
This is what I am talking about. The school has a duty to report any suspected child abuse whether the student wants them to or not! It is like a Doctor! Doctors are required to notify the proper authorities when child abuse is suspected with one of their patients.
Anonymous:
HydeFan, I got the following off the website you recommended. It looks pretty clear to me and it certainly makes sense!!
WHO MUST REPORT
Allopathic or osteopathic physicians; residents; interns; emergency medical services persons; medical examiners; physicians' assistants; dentists; dental hygienists; dental assistants; chiropractors; podiatrists; registered or licensed practical nurses; home health aides; medical or social service workers;
Teachers; guidance counselors; school officials; child care personnel; children's summer camp administrators or counselors;
Social workers; psychologists; mental health professionals;
Court Appointed Special Advocates; guardians ad litem; homemakers; law enforcement officials; State or municipal fire inspectors; municipal code enforcement officials; municipal fire inspectors; chairs of licensing boards that have jurisdiction over mandated reporters;
Commercial film and photographic print processors;
Clergy members acquiring the information as a result of clerical professional work except for information received during confidential communications;
Humane agents employed by the Department of Agriculture, Food and Rural Resources;
Any person who has assumed full, intermittent or occasional responsibility for the care or custody of the child, regardless of whether the person receives compensation.; or
Any person affiliated with a church or religious institution who serves in an administrative capacity or has otherwise assumed a position of trust or responsibility to the members of that church or religious institution, while acting in that capacity, regardless of whether the person receives compensation.
CIRCUMSTANCES
When, while acting in a professional capacity, they know or have reasonable cause to suspect that a child has been or is likely to be abused or neglected.
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