NATSAP is such a joke

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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-10-06 15:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

"examples where self- regulation works? for instance? I'm curious if only b/c I would think that there would be a clear conflict of interest at any attempts to self-regulate the industry."

--- End quote ---

The conflict comes in NOT regulating. In most professions with self-regulation, there is some sort of government oversight. The good actors in any of these get it: if you do a good job regulating yourself, you get to keep doing it, and it actually helps everone to A. Do a better job at their profession and B. Stay solvent. Let's face it: doing a poor job eventually will run you into the ground. I'm not suggesting we wait until then with something this important, but it is a point. :wave:

Anonymous:
I'm thinking more of trade organization, that are supposed to abide by ethical standards that, particularly, in many instances, would not be cost effective.

As I see it, NATSAP is like say Nike and...Gap (I know there was a lawsuit- but doubtful they have changed their sweatshop ways) stating they will attempt to treat their workers ethically, but w/o 'teeth' to enforce and a clear conflict of interest, as I understand it,given that its not cost effective to do so. Given their industry and this industry, any industry, are very hesistant to hurt their bottom line...unless it's seen as thrwating future problems, eg. bad for their image and could result in loss of business...

So, as I see it, this is very much like the finincial cost involved in hiring qualified workers in this particular industry-or, in this instance the cost of becoming a qualified 'headmaster' who determines the course of the school, its' psuedo-therapeutic philosophy, and runs groups.
...I think John Mercer is just now getting his Phd after 'treating' hundreds of girls because he forsaw his interests threatened, and NOT becuase of any desire to create a more ethical environment by actually providing kids with REAL therapy.

I think he also know that the way he has treated many of us was wrong and is back-peddling. He also is well respected by NATSAP, all of this indicates to me that NATSAP is a Joke! easily swayed by some cowboy boot & hat wearing, ego driven, smooth talking... con man.

Anonymous:
***NATSAP has a mess of rules and regs

Not technically rules and regs. They have 'Ethical Guidelines' that programs 'Agree' to comply with as members.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#115771
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#53026

Anonymous:
While some service providers, including WWASPS, have publicly supported moderate state-based regulation, the industry group National Association of Therapeutic Schools and Programs has contended that bureaucratic monitoring could hinder innovation, and that the government should defer to the industry?s own internally developed guidelines.

But Robert Friedman, chair of the Department of Child and Family Studies at the University of South Florida, warned that given the evidence of mistreatment, "there?s a danger that if left to self-regulate? there may be the illusion that there?s adequate accountability. And that, in some cases, could be worse than at least not having any illusion."

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