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a night at SCL... (great first person)
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On 2005-10-03 03:22:00, Nihilanthic wrote:
"Good writer.
I still just have a feeling my stomach fell into a black hole from remembering that poor girl that hung herself, though.
Well, hey, at least she commited the two ultimate acts of defiance against those fucking retards. Too bad theres been no justice whatsoever despite the fact that she is dead and gone, forever, and all we do amongst us still on earth is... jack shit except for the rebel rousers here and the few good people in the system who arent corrupted.
Anyone thought of just rounding up all the people we can and showing up in Washington D.C.? Like, a million survivor march... to MAKE them do something instead of just the old song and dance about Hurricanes, Iraq, and the moral issue of the moment.
Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat
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OK, I get the happy rebel thing, but are you really saying you think it's a great thing for a young girl to A . . . have a 15-minute quickie (unprotected) with a guy she doesn't know---assuming the kid who wrote this is telling any part of the truth--, and B . . . kill herself?
::troll:: ::troll::
BuzzKill:
//OK, I get the happy rebel thing, but are you really saying you think it's a great thing for a young girl to A . . . have a 15-minute quickie (unprotected) with a guy she doesn't know---assuming the kid who wrote this is telling any part of the truth--, and B . . . kill herself?
How far should a girl go to make a point? That kid used her, or claims he did, and you applaud that? Sorry, but your judgment sucks, guy.
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Your alittle behind about this entire thing are you not... To start off with this story, at least the general points in it, is the truth. There was a riot at this school. Children escaped, people were hurt. The girl hung her self, it happened, its in the histories. Now you... who the fuck are you to judge them? They were tortured for years... and who the fuck are you to even comment on how they take out their stress.//
I was also bothered by the Kiss N tell aspect of the bolgger's account.
I wish he had kept that tid-bit of info to himself.
Who knows if its true - or if the bloggers fantasy put into print.
There is just no telling - especially as the girl can not tell her side of the story.
If true, Maybe she wouldn't mind - but there is no way of knowing, is there?
It seems disrespectful - weather that was the intent or not.
I also agree, banging behind the bleachers, with a stranger, is not something to be proud of.
I am not personally as troubled that it happened, as I am that it was bragged about. Especially in light of her subsequent suicide.
I found myself wondering if there might have been a connection.
I am also troubled at the violence that took place against both the counselor and the student.
This kind of thing can so easily become reckless homicide, or manslaughter.
I get the happy rebel thing as well - but I can not applaud much that the Bolgger describes in his account.
I'm glad he is OK; I wish the same could be said for everyone else in his story.
Anonymous:
From my interpretation, he was not bragging about the girl. He told his story in a very REAL way, without the typical sugar coating one might expect.
Some people write in a way that seems aimed toward parents, they write in a more balanced and respectful tone. I think these authors might think they can convince parents minds in the future. Obviously that was not the goal of this author. In my opinion no first person account has come close to depicting the craziness of it all... because these places are just that, crazy.
The seperation of boys and girls for YEARS isn't a non-issue, it affects teens greatly.
Parents should know what can happen to their child at these shit-holes. Would the girl have had unprotected sex at home? Would she have committed suicide? These are important questions, they bring the entire effectiveness of the program into question.. at least for any delusional folks out there still wondering. (perspective referals)
Antigen:
:eek: Wow! This is just astounding! Yenz can actually read a tale of violence and suffereing, blood and gore and come away from that shocked by a sex scene?
FWIW, I think it's fiction based on fact. Yes, some of the facts are documented history. But I don't know if I buy the coincidental news story about prison hooch on the radio. And it seems to me the red truck and a couple of other details came out of some other program. I could be mistaken.
But let me tell you that, if it is fiction, it's damned convincing in a voluntarily suspended disbelief sort of way.
Look, like it or not, sex is one extremely effective stress reliever and natural euphoric. Now, add to the mix that we're talking about teenagers who have been in an extremely, bizarrely repressive environment for months or years. I'm guessin' spontanious broom closet sex happens rather often in any of these facilities where the opportunity exists. (or even a slim, hopeless chance of not getting busted)
Not saying it's healthy behavior under normal circumstances. But I can easily see how, under the circumstances we're talking about, it might well be the sanest thing anyone ever did.
Black markets will always be with us. But they will recede in importance when our public morality is consistent with our private one.
Eric Schlosser, Reefer Madness
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BuzzKill:
I know Ginger - and I am sure your right.
I didn't say I was shocked it happened - just that I wish the boy hadn't felt he needed to tell the story.
I can also believe the anon is right, that is wasn't meant to be Braging - just telling a story.
I also felt this might be a case of fiction wraped around truth - like a lot of authors will do when writing simi-autobiography's.
I still say that much of what the blogger discribes is not anything to applaude. As I said before:
I'm glad he is OK; I wish the same could be said for everyone else in his story.
I feel very badly for the girl.
And the little tripper as well.
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