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follow-up questions on Hyde School
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 22:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
Um, McFly. Hello. McFly. Anyone home.
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If you ever decide to pick an alias, I've added an avatar just for you.
Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist
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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 23:27:00, HydeFan wrote:
But yes, thank you Ginger. Am I correct in that you didn't go to Hyde and have no contact with Hyde other than posting on this website? And posting a lot more on schools you have decided were abusive? If so, do you see yourself as some freedom fighter? The brainwashing was so strong at this school (that was on 60 Minutes twice, Baraba Walters, Newsweek etc.) that you need to jump in an help save these poor souls who can't speak up for themselves? Sounds like you may have less of a life than I do!
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No, you misunderstand. These "poor souls" seem to be doing a find job of speaking for themselves. My interest in the topic derives from two basic sources.
First, way back in around `70 or `71, my family became involved in a very similar cult called The Seed. It's leader, Art Barker, was very like the way some of these people describe the Gaulds. You can read all about that in the Seed Discussion forum right here on this site. Hell, you can even find avid lifelong supporters of Art and the Seed who sound remarkably like you.
I think Art may have been even a little bit more off kilter than Joe Gauld, as the big government money and successful business people who initially collaborated w/ him gave him the bum's rush after about 4 years and set up shop under a new banner; Straight, Inc.
And this is the other prong of my continued interest in the issue. I don't care so much about what happened to my family 30 odd years ago. I care that you well intended but severely misguided people are inflicting the same destructive "treatment" on a new generation and doing it on my dime. That's just wrong. And I intend to get the word out, to foster meaningful, productive dialog on the topic and, ultimately, to do my small part in putting an end to public support and protection for these harmful practices.
Until you've lost your reputation,you never realize what a burden it was or what freedom really is.
MARGARET MITCHELL
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-06 09:55:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-10-05 23:27:00, HydeFan wrote:
But yes, thank you Ginger. Am I correct in that you didn't go to Hyde and have no contact with Hyde other than posting on this website? And posting a lot more on schools you have decided were abusive? If so, do you see yourself as some freedom fighter? The brainwashing was so strong at this school (that was on 60 Minutes twice, Baraba Walters, Newsweek etc.) that you need to jump in an help save these poor souls who can't speak up for themselves? Sounds like you may have less of a life than I do!
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No, you misunderstand. These "poor souls" seem to be doing a find job of speaking for themselves. My interest in the topic derives from two basic sources.
First, way back in around `70 or `71, my family became involved in a very similar cult called The Seed. It's leader, Art Barker, was very like the way some of these people describe the Gaulds. You can read all about that in the Seed Discussion forum right here on this site. Hell, you can even find avid lifelong supporters of Art and the Seed who sound remarkably like you.
I think Art may have been even a little bit more off kilter than Joe Gauld, as the big government money and successful business people who initially collaborated w/ him gave him the bum's rush after about 4 years and set up shop under a new banner; Straight, Inc.
And this is the other prong of my continued interest in the issue. I don't care so much about what happened to my family 30 odd years ago. I care that you well intended but severely misguided people are inflicting the same destructive "treatment" on a new generation and doing it on my dime. That's just wrong. And I intend to get the word out, to foster meaningful, productive dialog on the topic and, ultimately, to do my small part in putting an end to public support and protection for these harmful practices.
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Ginger, I respect and admire you for trying to make this a better world for the next generation. It is quite humorous that HydeFan keeps admonishing people for speaking the truth because one of the sayings at Hyde is, "Truth Over Harmony" in other words don't worry about keeping harmony, rather it is important to speak the truth and put yourself out there.
I agree there are legitimate concerns for the teachings and indoctornation of Joe Gauld. As he gets older he seems to be more out of control if he CANNOT CONTROL.
Let us not forget Hyde is now in the public sector ie DC, New Haven. Hyde recently opened up another "Charter School" in Oakland California and is also in the process of opening up one in NYC. I think it is of the utmost importance to inform the school system of NYC about Hyde's practices and destructive patterns. If you have any ideas, let the rest of us know.
Anonymous:
Ginger, when you "google" Hyde on the web, only Hyde's site comes up along with some other marketing materials. Formits is the only site where both sides can give an honest opinion about the school and it is available for all to see.
Antigen:
I think that's because Hyde hasn't been mentioned quite as frequently around here as some other places. Contrary to popular belief (smack talk) it's actually sort of rare for anyone around here to just spout a bunch of baseless, negative smack about any school. Baseless positive bullshit and smack about the critics are another story entirely.
In any event, as the discussion gets more substantial and interesting and people around the net link to it and search on the term more often, it'll rise in the rankings.
That's another of those little vindications of mine. I believe in a laissez faire approach to almost everything (consistent w/ the old axiom that it is wise to choose one's battles carefully!) And, so far, my doing absolutely nothing wrt marketing has consistently outperformed the industrie's million dollar marketing budgets. :rofl:
Save our planet; it's the only one with chocolate!
--Andi, domestic goddess
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