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follow-up questions on Hyde School
Anonymous:
--- Quote --- Why do you want to know anyone's names? What is your name?
Again you are showing the controlling and arrogant attitude of staff and owners of Hyde. If you don't think like Hyde then you "don't get it." I was always told this is a sign of a Cult......
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Well, to state the obvious, knowing someone's name would probably lead to "oh, I remember this person, and here is what really happened". How can you think its not relevant in ascertaining whether their claims have any validity?
Oh, just one other no doubt remotely possibly interpretation of "you don't get it". I am thinking, and stop me if this is too much of stretch here, but maybe those people actually just never got it.
Sure, it could be evidence of a cult. But there are equally viable alternative interpretations....
Troll Control:
http://www.bazelon.org/issues/children/ ... #_ftnref23
Here's a good link to start with. I can certainly quote many studies and you to them for your perusal, but this is a good, basic document that has annotations for all of its sources that you may also browse.
I don't have time right now to write a lengthy post, but since you show some interest in learning a bit more about the underlying psychological components of "programs," I thought I would give you a couple of jumping off points to do your own research.
You can look up LGAT -Large Group Awareness Training - and see what it's all about. It's principles are the underpinnings of nearly all "seminars" ("propheets," "workshops," "ecounter groups," "NLP" or "neurolinguistic programming," etc.).
Have a read and we'll discuss it tomorrow (or when you have time).
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 14:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
Oh, just one other no doubt remotely possibly interpretation of "you don't get it". I am thinking, and stop me if this is too much of stretch here, but maybe those people actually just never got it.
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Ok, stop. That is too much of a stretch.
--- Quote ---Sure, it could be evidence of a cult. But there are equally viable alternative interpretations
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No, not equally viable. Not even close. Read up on LGAT and and cults. It fits absolutely perfectly.
BTW, there are other, far more likely reason why someone w/ extreme fidelity to the program might want to know the identities of critics. What do you suppose these people disclosed in those seminars, hm? Bet some of it was some good dirt, huh!
You are so transparent :roll:
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Perl Services
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 19:43:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-10-05 14:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
Oh, just one other no doubt remotely possibly interpretation of "you don't get it". I am thinking, and stop me if this is too much of stretch here, but maybe those people actually just never got it.
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Ok, stop. That is too much of a stretch.
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Sure, it could be evidence of a cult. But there are equally viable alternative interpretations
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No, not equally viable. Not even close. Read up on LGAT and and cults. It fits absolutely perfectly.
BTW, there are other, far more likely reason why someone w/ extreme fidelity to the program might want to know the identities of critics. What do you suppose these people disclosed in those seminars, hm? Bet some of it was some good dirt, huh!
You are so transparent :roll:
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Anonymity Anonymous
Thank you Ginger! This "Hydette" is so programmed!! This person continues to try and control minds rather than admitting there are terrible flaws in this program! Why did one headmaster or asst headmaster resign because of plagerism? Why did another headmaster get transfered after being involved in a scandal involving a lawsuit where a good friend/staff member of his was accused of fondling a student? Why did another top administrator recently think about leaving? Why do at least 50% of Teachers leave each year? Why would a teacher be required to put their own kids at the school or be told, "you aren't committed to the program?" Cult, Cult, Cult!!
I could go on and on with the questions, but Hyde's fans will continue to defend. The point is, Hyde has A LOT wrong with it, but they continue to say, "we always raise the bar and continue to make good changes." This is fine for a new school, but after all these years you would think Hyde "got it!"
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 15:00:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
"http://www.bazelon.org/issues/children/factsheets/rtcs.htm#_ftnref23
Here's a good link to start with.
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Um, McFly. Hello. McFly. Anyone home. This is link to a legal website on residential treatment centers. Reading the first paragraph and its pretty clear its not even close to being about Hyde.
How is it that you think a legal website on residential treatment centers are relevant to my request to prove up your statement:
--- Quote ---What I said was that there has been definitive research done by NIH (and several other unbiased research agencies) that irrefutably proves that programs like Hyde ("Emotional Growth" or "Character Building" - call it what you like) don't work.
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Bring it. After all, you are the psychological professional here, right? Absent IRREFUTABLE PROOF, it seems to me a fair conclusion that people may assume everything you say is a lie, and also have a good idea why you and/or your family didn't make it at Hyde.
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