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Anonymous:
and all white artist from new york  paint the same picture.

Antigen:
Thanks, Helen. I apreciate the vote of confidence. You mean it wasn't all just my imagination after all? LOL

Check out this gem:
http://www.isaccorp.org/khk/openmeeting1.jpg

Aside from a few gramatical improvements, this might have been written by Lybbi herself.

Here's the thing, though. I don't know if any of the rest of you know anything much about LIFE. What I know of it comes to me from having gone to school w/ a couple of LIFErs. Like the old/new (non NIDA funded) Seed, it seemed a little more laid back.

For example, 5th phase LIFEr girls were allowed to wear makeup and even to go on permissions w/ approved non LIFErs. I remember that from the Seed, too. My sister (cir `78 or so) had a good friend who wasn't a Seedling. Such a good friend, in fact, that she was willing to go down to SR 84 for an intrusive and just plain creepy checkout meeting in order for my sis to be allowed to associate w/ her. Straightlings were forbiden to even talk w/ LIFErs, but there was no such restriction on them. They thought it was weird.

But these are very minor differences. Like the difference between one location or timeframe and another. The similarities are just overwhelming. Especially when contrasted w/ what we like to call "the real world."

But some of these folks, my brother included, are still into the kool aid to a degree that they can't allow themselves to see that.
If once [the people] become inattentive to the public affairs,
you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors,
shall all become wolves.  It seems to be the law of our general
nature, in spite of individual exceptions.


Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787
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Anonymous:
yea, yea, yea all the same and this rolex i got downtown for 40 bucks is the same as the real ones the guy told me so it must be true

Nihilanthic:
Guys do you have to piss on our legs and call it rain?

Stripsearching is and will always be humiliating and degrading. And when something makes a point of humiliating and making people to feel powerless, last I checked thats called abuse?

The thing that REALLY kills me is the standing assumption that all are druggies... plenty of them were sent for other reasons or NO reason, like Mrs. Handbasket here.

 :roll: but yeah, I guess digital penetration of an adolescent child's sexual orfifaces and the degredation and powerlessness with it is part of the whole stepcraft bullshit, right?
God is a concept by which we measure our pain.
--John Lennon, British songwriter and member of "The Beatles"
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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2005-09-23 17:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"another know it all that was'nt there. Don't just assume things. I was in the Seed and I will never speek of Straight, 'cause I was never there. "

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Hey dip shit. Yeah, I'm talkin' ta' you! And don't go bawling about the rough treatment. You know very well you've said worse than that to captive little girls, spit flyin', temples throbbing. Did ya' get off on it?

There are currently over 350 topics on the Seed just in this forum, plus a few tangental references in some of the others. Then there's Wes Fager's exhaustive research. Go ahead, go to http://thestraights.com/ and search on The Seed.

It would be funny if it weren't so tragic that I have to be the one to tell you this, but what went on there, what you saw and who you saw, uh... it didn't stay there. Secrets have a limited shelf life.

If you want to go on believing that the Seed was a singular, unique and beautiful thing, you'd best sell that modem. You won't be needing it much.

Step 1. We came to understand that the government is powerless over people's private use of drugs and that the War on Drugs was making the government's life unmanageable.

--Scott Tillinghast
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