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Antigen:
Isn't it amazing, though. We got John, Terry and (occasionally) my brother all evidently thinking it's perfectly fittin' and proper to treat us like misbehaving newcomers. Bwahahahaha! :rofl:
All of these comforting and reasonable things were taught by the ministers in their pulpits -- by teachers in Sunday schools and by parents at home. The children were victims. They were assaulted in the cradle -- in their mother's arms. Then, the schoolmaster carried on the war against their natural sense, and all the books they read were filled with the same impossible truths. The poor children were helpless. The atmosphere they breathed was filled with lies -- lies that mingled with their blood.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
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Antigen:
Sorry, sorry, Robin. Didn't mean to leave you out.
God is a concept by which we measure our pain.
--John Lennon, British songwriter and member of "The Beatles"
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Helena Handbasket:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-22 10:15:00, Ft. Lauderdale wrote:
"Antigen,
You were never at the"Seed". Straight INC. is not the seed. The same things that happened to you at "Straight Inc. did not happen to you at the SEED. Can you get that into your head you seem to have a problem differentiating the two.
Maybe you shoud seek help in figuring this concept out."
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I'm not trying to nose in where I don't belong, but I believe this needs to be said...
There is a problem differenating the two... actually, there is a problem differentiating maybe three, and then some. Can you get that into your head?
In another post, JaLong brought up "Peterman" Helen Petermann. She (Petermann) started off being a Seed parent from what I understand, but according to JaLong's post, she was doing an intake? http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... m=8#133933
I'm a little too pressed for time to find out what her role was at Straight, but I believe her designation was that of "Clinical Staff". Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
From Straight, Helen Peterman, with George Ross (another long-timer) formed LIFE, Inc.
When I first found this board, there wasn't much going on in the LIFE arena. However, in reading threads from The Seed and Straight, I can tell you firsthand, that LIFE was the same shit, and Petermann was running it. The only differences were that there were that church pews were substituted for blue chairs, and Mac & Cheese replaced the PB&J diet - although it depended on the host home you were in. In some, there was "No Dinner Night".
At intake, I was also threatened by Petermann - though not with Juvie, but with "Palms". Sarasota Palms was a psych hospital, which seemed to be her favorite ultimatum... because "If you go to Palms, you know you'll never have a life with a psych history" (I had none then, and I don't consider being pissed at lying assholes now a mental illness either.)
Same shit, different program: hours long standoff until you're forced to sign the paper, grabbed and belt-looped off to a room to be strip searched while your clothes were seam-searched, the motivating, the "Love ya, have a seat"... it's all the SAME, man! Why can't you seem to believe that?
Hell, The Seed is still carries on today in Kids Helping Kids in Ohio - which was formed directly from the Petermann Railroad: http://www.kidshelpingkids.com/History.html
KHK is a precise LIFE (working backward now... Straight, Seed) CLONE! Damn, it's a strange coincidence that their parent propoganda is the same shit I found buried in my house after leaving the program in '84. http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsam.html#khk
Ominous how Barker termed it "The Seed" thirty years ago, and how it spawned. Just like a doctor, you don't need to have the disease to recognize the symptoms.
Anonymous:
another know it all that was'nt there. Don't just assume things. I was in the Seed and I will never speek of Straight, 'cause I was never there.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-23 17:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"another know it all that was'nt there. Don't just assume things. I was in the Seed and I will never speek of Straight, 'cause I was never there. "
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I've seen the Red Sox several times, but I've never seen the Padres. Still, I bet I could describe their ball park pretty accurately, and I bet they play by the same rules.
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