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Another note to John Underwood
GregFL:
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Change it if you can and care.
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Define cult and compare and contrast it to this website.
What YOU got is the remnants of an exclusive cult pulsing thru your heart, and your only weapon is to attack, a dubious skill learned at a shithole called the seed.
Change that, if you can and care.
GregFL:
John U wrote:"And for the record, of course there were people in The Seed that, (in my opinion), didn?t belong there, but these were a minority."
Oh bull shite!!!!!
What percentage of people that attended the seed went in in 1973/74? Got any idea? I do...the vast majority of the entire Seed warehouse your kid experiment...
What percentage of them were under 18?
What percentage of them were addicted?
What percentage of them went on to abuse drugs?
You don't know, do you? Yet you deride someone else and make fallicious claims like Ginger only knows of a dozen or so people that went thru the seed.
We have been associating on the internet for going on 6 years. This is the second version of our online community, the first is archived. Many many former indoctrinees have posted here and other websites. Only a handfull have been staunchly pro seed, and almost to a person they post "come down on you" raps instead of addressing the issues.
And yes, the seed straight comparison does work, even if that goes against your grain. It was the same damn thing operated by a subset of seed fanatics.
Same shit different shithole.
Ft. Lauderdale:
"Same Shit different shithole"
Greg are you quoting Homer or Tennyson? :grin:
Anonymous:
John, you wrote:
My problem here is that post after post complains about how awful The Seed experience was, but the absence of any statements regarding what these people did, (when they had the opportunity), to make it better, is what I see. Unless you believe whining, complaining and bitching actually works??? Which brings to mind another question.
Do you mean to tell me that all I had to do was raise my hand and say some thing like
I disagree with the policy that only allows me to use the bathroom once or twice a day?
That I could object to having to tell someone whether I was peeing or pooping?
That I could ask not be held in a smokefilled room?
Surely you jest. If that was an option and I could have had some say in how I was treated, why wasn't I told that it was an option? Why wasn't there a sign that said, if you don;t like it, just ask us tochange it.
Why were the rules held to such a high infallible status and enforced the way they were if all ittook to change them was a request. I don't think there was any democracy going down at the seed.
Is that the secret that separates the true believers from the rest of the population? That those who totally succomed to the reverse peer-pressure were in fact the sheep and the those who asked for different treatment got differnt or better treatment?
Your statement flies in the face of whole druggie-rehab control philosphy.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-29 06:42:00, John Underwood wrote:
as a very young child, the attention you were being deprived of because your parents sought help for your sibs, and declare this makes you a Seed expert???
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:scared: :rofl:
Now you're sounding crazy! I resented the attention? Please tell me, how in the world do you arrive at that conclusion? I wasn't resentful at all. What I was was scared shitless. I saw the disturbing changes in my older siblings' personalities and that of their friends. I knew about the abductions, many--constant--split attempts, the snich phone trees etc. I was terrified daily for years of getting a little dose of the same kind of "attention".
--- Quote ---I, for one, dispute these statements. I, unlike you, was actually there.
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I'm not the only one saying so. Just use the handy search feature located in the menu on the left of the page. Search this forum for the word "torture" and see how many different people use the same descriptive terms. You might, if you had any authentic interest, also try words like "abuse" and "terror".
Who the hell are you to even question what these people experienced? It's not asif any of us, whether in group or in danger of being so, could have told you how we felt about it at the time w/o major reprecussions.
Tell me, do you believe that your feet cease to exist when you put your shoes on? You didn't want to know then and you don't want to know now. Doesn't make you right.
As far as the Straight connection, you're frankly delusional about that. Here's an interesting new document. http://www.straightincarchives.com/anon ... erDepo.htm
See Betty Sembler employing the same logical[sic] strategy distort the history of that spin off program.
Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it can do something to the people
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