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GregFL:
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http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shel ... cs-08.html
Sort of `splains a lot, don't it?
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Yes it does. The methodology of the Seed had many things in common with scientology. One difference..scientology is/was much less coercive. But the us/them mentality, the exclusivity, the special powers, the one and only way to becoming straight, all that bull is in there.
marshall:
"Scientology fanatically avoids any independent review or evaluation of its actions."
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Hmmm. Sounds familiar.
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"The coercion which accomplishes this defeat of "street smarts" may not be obvious. It would be a pretty ineffective group that had to control its members through blatant coercion. It is much more efficient to create a milieu in which the members indoctrinate and control themselves, and convince each other that it was all their own free choice and decision."
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Sort of like; "I never felt brainwashed" I suppose.
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Here's another interesting article re scientology and thought-reform:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/7.htm
Antigen:
Ok, different Barker.
But I still have to wonder if the clams are the wellspring here. Or maybe not. Maybe he just came accross some helpful info about niacin compliments of the clams and wove it into his own fantasy.
I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am!
-- Monty Python
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cleveland:
A. Scientology is incredibly coercive. One of the largest private landholders, ready to sue any opponents/journalists, took over the anti-Scientology website for their own purposes. The Seed on Speed!
B. Art did recommend Naicin. We took it as oldcomers, and I remember we actually talked about "is this wrong", because it produced a head-rush and mild euphoria in addition to the skin flushing. Art believed it was good for the heart and removed toxins.
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-27 07:07:00, cleveland wrote:
"A. Scientology is incredibly coercive. One of the largest private landholders, ready to sue any opponents/journalists, took over the anti-Scientology website for their own purposes. The Seed on Speed!
B. Art did recommend Naicin. We took it as oldcomers, and I remember we actually talked about "is this wrong", because it produced a head-rush and mild euphoria in addition to the skin flushing. Art believed it was good for the heart and removed toxins."
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Well Cleveland, that is a different type of coercion. They aren't sending people out to throw you in cars, nor do they padlock you in buildings at night, nor do you sit in wooden chairs for twelve hours a day getting screamed at and sexually humiliated.
No, the seed was scientology on speed, I am afraid you have that backwards.
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