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Antigen:
God, this is really getting under my skin. What I said was nothing compared to what you early Seedlings said to my brother! And I'm fairly certain that you didn't use polite language, either.

I know, he may be a grandpa now. But he WAS my 14yo brother. Then he seemed invincible. Now, looking back, I see him very like my young kids. He was impressionable and he believed you and now just LOOK at what he's become. You stole my brother, you mother fuckers! And no amount of soft-soapin' it is ever gonna get past my bullshit detector. You did this. And Thom's just one of thousands. A good many of them had little sisters too.


They came with a Bible and their religion- stole our land, crushed our spirit... and now tell us we should be thankful to the 'Lord' for being saved.
--Chief Pontiac, American Indian Chieftain
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rjfro22:
Antigen,
               What do you mean you lost your brother?
What's wrong with him? Do you not speak to him anymore?

Antigen:
Haven't had an authentic conversation w/ him or my mother since the very early `70's.
Every man has a property in his own person.
This nobody has any right to but himself.
The labor of his body and the work of his
 hands are properly his.


--John Locke
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Thom:

--- Quote ---On 2005-09-23 10:42:00, Antigen wrote:

"This sounds a little fishy. I've never heard of THC needing strychnine as a bonding agent. I have heard of LSD needing it. Don't know if that's true or just another urban legend. Are you sure it wasn't LSD? Where would a dumb kid get isolated THC in those days anyway? I mean, now you can get dranabinol if you really really want it. But I've never seen it and only ever seen marinol in pill form once in my life. In fact, never even heard of anyone having, seeking or offering isolated THC in all my life, except every last stinking introduction at the Seed and Straight.



So I looked into the clinical effects of strychnine anyway. Shaw nuff, nothing like what you describe.



Are you really a doctor?






Don't worry about temptation--as you grow older, it starts avoiding you.  
-- Old Farmer's Almanac

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Ging, I used to take that stuff. I was told it was horse tranquilizer or something. I doubt it was anywhere near pure anything, but us teeny boppers would eat whatever anyone said was cool. I was a sheep as a drug user. Huff this, try this acid, etc. I'm just glad I didn't know any junkies. I had heard that story in '71 when I was there. I must have come in the first time shortly after Tom's 2nd. I'm not a Dr., but I play one on Fornit's[ This Message was edited by: Thom on 2005-09-23 22:24 ]

Thom:

--- Quote ---On 2005-09-23 21:23:00, Antigen wrote:

"Haven't had an authentic conversation w/ him or my mother since the very early `70's.
Every man has a property in his own person.
This nobody has any right to but himself.
The labor of his body and the work of his
 hands are properly his.


--John Locke
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Authentic conversation = total acceptance of Ginger's conspiracy theories, and a willingness to disavow any loyalty to or possible benefit from The Seed. If she is so all knowing and powerful (the opposite of powerless) what need would she have to converse with mere mortals such as we? Not that I fault her for it. I think if I were God, I might feel the same way. But as a  :em: I guess we won't have to worry about that happening. WHAT HAVE I BECOME????!!!

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