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the seed song
Anonymous:
Stripe:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-12 19:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"... I remember he came back to school the following year and he would not talk to me. It was devastating to me. He tried to infer that I was a druggie for the simple reason I did not go to this program. Could what I am describing be typical of Seed...."
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Oh yeah. That's the dogma alright. I'm sure your friend was, inside, just as confused by his behavior as you were. Sorry you had to experience that kind of rejection. But please understand, it was just as horrible, if not worse, on the other side of the equation.
For a seed kid going back to his or her old school, especially where there were no other seed kids around, no one could have possibly been good enough, honest enough or "straight" enough to be a friend of a seedling.
Weighing the choice of keeping everyone away by whatever means necessary to remain "straight" in the druggie world of high school against getting sent back to the seed for talking to someone...that choice was fairly simple and excrutiatingly painful at the same time.
Some would say it is a weak person's way out, and maybe they are right. I erred on the side of NOT getting sent back just like your friend did. Meaning I treated people who did me absolutely no harm as though they were "bad" people. It made a lonely life for me, of that you can be sure.
Sad to say, but your friend was most likely a pretty lonely guy till he got out of it. Hopefully he has reconciled his experience as best he could. [ This Message was edited by: Stripe on 2005-10-13 19:16 ][ This Message was edited by: Stripe on 2005-10-13 19:16 ]
Anonymous:
No one was good enough, no one.
When I went back to school I talked to one girl for about two weeks. She was a new student that I approached to inform that there were lots of druggies at our school so she should be careful.
This poor new girl was my friend for several weeks and would have continued to be despite the fact that it caused her to be ostracized by many kids but as the weeks passed I got more and more anxious-- sure I would get in trouble for talking to this girl at school. Finally one day she came to school wearing a black denim jumper.
I don't know about the Florida seed but in the cleveland seed black clothing was highly frowned upon and denim was only worn by druggies. I gave her the I can't talk to you anymore unless you go to the seed and get straight speach that day.
In retrospect, although I know I really hurt her feelings, her new life at school must have improved without me. I couldn't share, laugh, talk about boys, problems at home. I was incapable of having a normal 8th grade conversation let alone friendship. I just spouted seed dogma at her and was so rigid you'd think I shit marble. In short, I am sorry I hurt her feelings but the affection I remember her with makes me think she was better off without me.
cleveland:
"I just spouted seed dogma at her and was so rigid you'd think I shit marble."
That's a funny quote!
Stripe:
It's shameful, what we put ourselves through and what we put our peers through under the guise of being "straight".
I'm guessing that maturity would have made the real world process much easier. Too bad I didn't have what I needed to successfully integrate myself back into society. Whose fault? I don't know. I guess that depends on the tool, doesn't it?
Oh well, spills happen even inthe best of homes and families....
[ This Message was edited by: Stripe on 2005-10-14 13:07 ]
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