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In Re : Physical Abuse v. Psychological Abuse

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GregFL:

--- Quote ---On 2005-09-13 13:19:00, marshall wrote:



Have I misunderstood what John is saying here?......He does seem to be implying some type of connection between Art and a program modeled after Synanon: "Spectrum House, that was loosely modeled after Synanon. The program was inspired by Alcoholics Anonymous, modified by Art,"




Or is John simply mentioning another rehab located nearby?

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he was just mentioning that there was a synanon based rehab in the area, but that the seed was not one.  I know this from my conversation with him even tho I understand the post was a tad confusing.

The connection is there...that is the commonality of techniques. How Art learned them remains a mystery...maybe this other guy...this Dave R guy was a synanon member?

Crap...I just don't know.

marshall:
Thanks for the clarification Greg. So the mystery remains. hmmm.

Robin Martin:

--- Quote ---On 2005-09-14 00:14:00, GregFL wrote:

"Well, unlike you Robin my parents at the direction of st Pete Staff went on an active campaign to enroll all my friends. their parents were invited over and we had to come in the room and give our "drug list" and then admit to doing drugs with their kids.
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OK - so that was THEM, you had no control over THEIR choices, only your own!

Integrity? Hell, there was no choice in the matter...
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You are correct - I had no choice but to drop the bullshit!!


Hey Robin...lookie here...real exchange going on!

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Don't be so condescending Greg - it doesn't suit you! Well, actually it does but I won't go there :lol:

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I bid you peace!

JaLong:
OK Greg Now something is going on. Yeah! My best friend was staff in the seed. Her mother and some other parents of my "druggie friends" got together and heard how great the seed was. That is how I got in there. (along with a phoney court order). By the way, my former best friend is a lost puppie, going back to some very hard drugs after she left the seed. Guess it messed up some staff members too?? Haven't seen her since she left. Her brother told me not to even try to get in touch with her. "It would break my heart."
Julie

Robin Martin:

--- Quote ---On 2005-09-14 07:35:00, cleveland wrote:
Robin, the movie Thirteen is very instructive. I hit some low points but perhaps not that dramatic. However, the Seed did not give me the tools I use today. For instance, honesty. The Seed allowed only partial, 'acceptable' honesty and I think that is a problem. Perhaps it was not that way for you, but you left on your own. I stuck around.
Walter"
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OK - this is the way it was "for me"...I came into the Seed in an extreme condition.  They conditoned me by means of "another" extreme.  After graduating, I managed to 'balance' out and find 'MY center'. No harm, no foul, to my life. I just grew up and got on w/ my life. I won't say the "Seed" gave me the tools, but watching my 'peers in practice', certainly proved to be an example of how I wanted to live my life and I incorporate most of what I learned there and then some!! Thanks Walter for acknowledging "Perhaps it was not that way for you." I truly respect that... :nworthy:

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