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cleveland:
Funny, I just went back on another thread and read JU's posting directed to me, dripping with sarcasm. I guess I must have touched a nerve, John, I'm sorry. I am also glad that you have achieved your goals, and that you are living a good, productive life. I apologise for my own sarcasm, which is a weapon of weakness. My weakness is my anger in reaction to your post, where you flip my own questioning and challenging the Seed back on me - essentially to put me on trial for my Seed years, my relationship with my family, my own integrity, and my present.

Wow.

I am back on the front row, I guess! Fortunately, I am an adult at this point, and I WILL walk out those doors. At the age of 19, I was in turmoil, looking for someone to tell me, please, what to do with my life. The Seed supplied all of the answers without ambiguity, and I signed on. I won't do so now.

I won't take the bait, John.

All I am doing here is exploring my feelings, both positive and negative, about my 7 year association with now-defunct drug rehab/cult/community of choice, whatever you want to call it. I have legitimate questions about the value of that association for me, the usefulness of that model in current treatment for addiction, and the role of coercion, peer pressure and 'choice' play. I have seen family members struggle with addiction, including my own mom who required a legal and financial guardian and involuntary treatment for alcohol-induced mental and physical breakdown, so I have struggled with these issues in a way that is not merely academic.

I would love it, John, if you would address these issues: when is it OK to compel someone into treatment? What should the nature of that treatment be? And what are the limits to that treatment, if 'tough-love' or whatever is a part of it than how do you eliminate abuses?

Walter

marcwordsmith:
Beautiful questions, Walter, respectfully posed, and congrats to you for transcending sarcasm (unlike some of us--but no names will be mentioned!!!) (Such as my own name, for example . . .)

I hope John answers you; you deserve a respectful reply. He may have shuffled down the road by now though, with his tail between his legs and his denial essentially intact, though perhaps having sustained a healthy fracture or two.

Anonymous:
I think everyone should vote.  How many of you really good posters think Marc is truly the cleverest?

Anonymous:
seeing wordsmith attached to his posts    which reflect legitimate thought by the skin of his teeth    are full of glaring logical and grammatical errors    has the same effect on me as a sharp object screeching across a blackboard        that's my vote

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-09-11 06:54:00, Anonymous wrote:

"seeing wordsmith attached to his posts    which reflect legitimate thought by the skin of his teeth    are full of glaring logical and grammatical errors    has the same effect on me as a sharp object screeching across a blackboard        that's my vote"

--- End quote ---


Anon,
Again, as with so many of the anons on this site, the content of the message is lost on you, the reader.

Here's what I vote:
I vote that you are simply another ass in a long line of anonymous asses responding as best you can (poorly) to the challenge of having to go outside your safe little seed-world to reach a level of understanding that's barely above your own sock line.

And no, you don't get the benefit of knowing whether I'm legitimately anonymous or just another one of the anonymous asses.

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