Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Genreal Discussion on the WWASP Parent's BBS??
chi3:
Big Bull Shit! No, it is a parent forum where the "cult" parents reassure you that you are doing the very best thing for your child. They give testimony daily to how great WWASPS is. It would be very funny if it weren't so sad. It would blow your mind to read some of the stuff parents write, they will be livid and cussing and saying they think it is all a crock of shit, then about 10 parents swoop down and write novels about how it has reformed their kid, helped their other kid, saved their marriage, and got rid of the dog's worms. After a while of this, and not hearing from your kid, just the staff,(who sees a major change already), parents go to the seminars and are in ecstasy! It is like Stepford Nation.......
Anonymous:
Chi 3
That was was stated.Dont foreget tomentionit works. The BBS definately keeps parents engaged.
Probaly why any negative comments are deleted and the person who wrote is removed and prevented from ever being "invited" back on.
Antigen:
Well what have they got to hide? If the program works so good, they why do they have to spend so much time and effort putting down dissenting views?
Chi, glad your daughter is doing so well. I sure wish there were more like you.
Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundation, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America.
James Madison
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-18 13:57:00, Antigen wrote:
"Well what have they got to hide? If the program works so good, they why do they have to spend so much time and effort putting down dissenting views?
Chi, glad your daughter is doing so well. I sure wish there were more like you.
Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundation, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America.
James Madison
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The programs work "good" because they don't spend time and money supporting the work of their enemies. Say whatever you want, but don't expect me to buy you a microphone. If you had a neighbor you hated, would you be pissy about him not inviting you into his house to bitch at him?
The BBS is to SUPPORT the parents, not trash them. That in no way implies anything to hide. It just implies the programs aren't run by idiots.
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Cayo Hueso:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-19 09:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
The programs work "good" because they don't spend time and money supporting the work of their enemies. Say whatever you want, but don't expect me to buy you a microphone. If you had a neighbor you hated, would you be pissy about him not inviting you into his house to bitch at him?
The BBS is to SUPPORT the parents, not trash them. That in no way implies anything to hide. It just implies the programs aren't run by idiots.
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The programs work well. I think few would dispute that. They turn beautiful individuals into program-spouting robots, preaching the gospel of WWASPS. It's HOW they work that is the central question here. If you beat a dog into submission and he now 'obeys' you, is that considered a success? Same thing with the teens, even if there is no physical abuse. The emotional does the trick just as well.
And how 'bout full disclosure? Shouldn't prospective and active parents have another point of view? What you're descibing sounds like totalism (sp and correct term??). Another cult tactic...
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http://www.ex-cult.org/General/lifton-criteria
From Dr. Robert J. Lifton for Thought Reform: The psychology of Totalism
5. SACRED SCIENCE
the totalist milieu maintains an aura of sacredness around its basic
doctrine or ideology, holding it as an ultimate moral vision for the
ordering of human existence
questioning or criticizing those basic assumptions is prohibited
a reverence is demanded for the ideology/doctrine, the originators of
the ideology/doctrine, the present bearers of the ideology/doctrine
offers considerable security to young people because it greatly
simplifies the world and answers a contemporary need to combine a
sacred set of dogmatic principles with a claim to a science embodying
the truth about human behavior and human psychology
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For more, read here... especially Lifton's, Singer's and Hassan's. The similarities are just plain scary. http://www.ex-cult.org/General/lifton-criteria
God did not reward men for being honest, generous and brave, but for the act of faith. Without faith, all the so-called virtues were sins. and the men who practiced these virtues, without faith, deserved to suffer eternal pain.
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