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« on: September 06, 2005, 10:59:00 PM »
Just wondering if snyone out amongst this site has heard or knows of what the procedure is if one runs away from these schools. Is it in fact a crime to runaway? Would the coppers pick u up and  take you back? Or would they not get involved unless a true crime was comitted. Anyone have any idea?

For example if my 16 year old ran awy from home I could report them as a run away but really it is not a crime so the police rarely care. Plus the  judge in family law court mighht say something like "Well I cant force your 16 year old to live with you" And notice the qoutes.... :roll:
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2005, 11:07:00 PM »
Program frequently have arrangements with local law enforcement to return kids who run.
If the kid gets past the local boys, parents hire bounty hunters (PIs) to find their kid and return them to the program.
Amazingly, some have managed to get thousands of miles away with little to no money and the clothes on their backs.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2005, 11:13:00 PM »
how did you reply so fast? And how do you know when something new is posted?Im pretty much not knowing obviously. And why do you speak with a bag on your head?
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2005, 12:41:00 AM »
Ok ignoring the last response to which I am certain is from a troll, here is my input on your question Peni.

Arrangements between school and local authorites do exsist. Most of these school for youth        -sniggers- betterment have some sort of guardian consent form that needs to be signed. This gives the school permission to chase kids who run away. As the child who is in a bit of a legal limblo as his parents have given their permission to the school the local authorities tend to side with the kiddie torture camps.

After all think about it from law enforcement point of view. Here is school to help kids that has parental permission to persue the run away so in the eyes of the law the kid is a run away.

Now working with Three Springs I saw several run away attempts, and spent more than one long night out in the woods chasing the kids. Never a pleasant experience for all involved, but the typical proceedure was as follows.

1) Counselor of the group discovers a missing resident, or watches a resident run off, he or she promplty notifies a supervisor over the radio.

2) All groups are placed on groupness meaning all residents must be under direct counselor supervision at all times. Most major activites tend to come to a halt, and the groups are moved down to main campus for better supervision, and to allow counselors to start the search proceedures.

3) All other campuses are notified immediately that includes the Long Term Girls program about a mile away, and the short term three springs state of alabama programs a few hundred yards away.

Nearby neighboors are notified as well as the County Sheriff.

4)Spare staff meaning double covered groups loose their extra counselors, staff in training, select office staff if availiable is immediately organized to begin searching the local area.

5) With counselors now out in the woods beating the bush so to say several vehicles are sent out to various choke points in the area that the kid would have to pass through to gain access to the local highway.

6) Now if the search goes on for more than a few hours then vehicles are dispatched to begin notifying the local gas stations, and other small stores nearby of a run away, and to provide the store owners with a description.

7) It is quite possible that a Private Investigator could be contacted will be hired if the resident is missing for more than a few days.

The longest one has been loose I think was 3 or 4 days. One made it as far as Oregon by stealing cars, and another stole his parents rental car out of the parking lot, and made it to Virginia before getting busted.

I am sure I missed a bunch, but if I think of anything else I will post it.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2005, 12:43:00 AM »
dat was me TSW sorry
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2005, 11:05:00 AM »
What a bunch of sick bastards. One question I have is why in the world do the civilians go along with this? Why are the neighbors and gas stationed notified. And what do they tell them? "We have a crazy out on the loose watch out... But most likley he wont beable to hurt you because he is over worked and under nourshed." What do the public around these programs think of the program, and why in the world would they support it. These hunts seem to degrade the youth to the status of a animal. TSW regale us with a story of a chase please, I'm interested.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2005, 03:56:00 PM »
You oughta know a crazy Oddy-boy.  Not everybody in the worldd is out to hurt/maim/warp kids.  Just 'cause u think in a warped way doesn't mean all do.  Gee, maybe some folk even think programs may actually do something positive.  Even folk who have been through a program.  Even sane folk.  So maybe people living/working near programs think they aren't such the inevitably sinful things you think.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2005, 04:21:00 PM »
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Gee, maybe some folk even think programs may actually do something positive. Even folk who have been through a program. Even sane folk. So maybe people living/working near programs think they aren't such the inevitably sinful things you think.


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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2005, 06:01:00 PM »
You can try to run, and there really is no reason you shouldn't try if you really want to-- it's not like you're going to be any worse off afterwards. (other than a week in iso or something like that)

You will not be charged with anything, but they will try to get you back by notifying the surrounding towns law enforcement to keep their eyes peeled, along with posting a reward for private citizens calling into help.

It's been done before, and it will continue to happen. God bless the kids who do get away. It's not easy working up the nerve to run, and even harder once you're out there on your own. The amount of kids runnign should say something about these programs-- they'd rather risk death on life on the streets than stay. Actions speak louder than words, dont ya think.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2005, 07:03:00 PM »
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Gee, maybe some folk even think programs may actually do something positive. Even folk who have been through a program. Even sane folk.


And maybe there really are unicorns. I haven't met a whole lot of people who have been through coercive thought reform programs such as the ones usually discussed around here and who are sane, let alone sane and hold a favorable view of the process. Usually, it's only some parents and staff who remain in favor of them for any length of time; and even at that, only the really sadistic, codependent ones.

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2005, 07:05:00 PM »
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 Why are the neighbors and gas stationed notified. And what do they tell them? "We have a crazy out on the loose watch out...


Yeah, that's pretty much it. They slander the kids to the point where locals are afraid of them and agry at them. But that's true of any minor who runs away. Most people just assume that the kid must be bad and worry more about the poor, distraught parents.

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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2005, 08:01:00 PM »
You know, speaking of runners and everything.

People have been talking about taking in Katrina victims and giving them a place to stay and things to get along. They say "I took in a Katrina victim"

Well I want to be able to say. "I took in a runner." My heart goes out to the poor kids who think they dont have anywhere to turn, and the whole world is after them, which seems to be the case. I would take in a runner in a second if I saw one.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2005, 09:24:00 PM »
Now, theorhetically, don't laugh - lets say you bought a house next door to one of these places and stuck a big sign on your front one lawn saying "Escapees Welcome! Food & Shelter!" or "Run Now! Come here!"  or "$100 + a bus ticket!" or something to that effect... I don't suppose that would be legal now would it? Could you get kidnapping, child endangerment? An idea like that kinda warms my heart to think I could help a splitee/escapee/runaway.... any thoughts?
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2005, 09:38:00 PM »
Well I would really like that. I think that you could not be charged with kidnapping because they come to you. Maybe contributing to the deliquency of a minor. I dont think yo ucould get child endangerment because well with you the kids not endangered.
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.