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wtaylorg:
Check your private messages again.
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Anonymous:

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Yeah, I think I understand what you're saying Robin. (or maybe not..it's late here & I'm sleepy) If the choice is between being a junkie and being a moonie or rajneeshie I'd take the latter two anyday. In my own case, being ordered into the seed was a much better alternative than spending 5 years in a georgia prison. It's ironic, but I'm actually one of those that would have unquestionably 'ended up' in prison if not for the seed or some such program as an alternative.
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Thank you Marshall - you DO understand afterall!  I can 'relate' w/ you in knowing UNQUESTIONABLY I would have ended up deadinsaneorinjail.  I was a tough little gal. When I volunteered to put myself into the Seed, I was soooo miserable, I remember calling my mom to say "if I don't get straight, I'm going to commit suicide..."  That was the FIRST time those words crossed my lips.  Well, for me, it was all good. I'm still above ground and grateful for it!  In no way do I minimize the experiences of others that were FORCED in for smoking a couple of joints, or having a couple of beers or taking a couple of trips.  That's obscene!  I understand parents jumping on the bandwagon; wouldn't you, if you were scared and concerned for your children?? I would.  Neither do I blame FAMILY DISFUNCTION from time spent at the Seed.  Hell - My family was dysfunctional when I went in, STILL dysfunctional today and always will be.  How do I handle it? I deal w/ it and move on! Does it hurt at times?  OF COURSE IT DOES! The four of us live in different states and WE LIKE it that way! Yeesh, sorry for the rant...sometimes I just start typing and can't stop.  I imagine it's like that for a lot of us, huh?  I appreciate your comments Marshall,
Robin

marshall:
Funny, but I don't remember Cliff wearing those...he must've started after I left. I do remember Robert C. wearing them though. I recall lots of guys doing it.  I even have a pic somewhere of me in that get-up. Also had the white shoes..  A black T-shirt huh? You were such a rebel! I have no problem with art or anyone wearing that sort of thing. But it's just personal taste...like some people prefer Rembrandt and others Van Gogh. It isn't a moral or character issue. Same with hair styles.

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"The whole point was to dress brighter and feel better about your self. It was a little tough to where a yellow or red or light blue shirt & act and feel down & out. Lets face it once you got out of the grateful dead tshirt & dirty scragley jeans it makes a difference in your attitude."
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There seems to be a big contradiction in that observation. If dressing 'brighter' makes you feel better about yourself then you should never ditch the grateful dead shirts. Have you ever seen these? There's nothing as bright & colorful as those are. I've worn them regularly for nearly 2 decades.  imo it wasn't the psychological effect of bright colors, it was what was considered acceptable at the time...same as being 'cool' in the seed. Only certain styles of bright clothes were acceptable. From watching my own and other kids grow to adulthood, I'd say it's primarily getting out of adolescence that makes the biggest difference in your attitude.

We could argue about men's hairstyles at the seed but such a debate between two graying, balding men  :skull:  & you still seem to have a great sense of humor.  If you ever talk to Cliff, tell him I said Hi.

GregFL:

--- Quote ---  In no way do I minimize the experiences of others that were FORCED in for smoking a couple of joints, or having a couple of beers or taking a couple of trips.  That's obscene!

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Of course it is, and think you for getting that Robin!


I would extend that to anyone forced in for any reason.

Now, those of you that volunteered to go in and appreciate your experience, who's to second guess? ..its your life. However, to those that volunteered going in not realizing the dangerous cultic techniques that were to be used on them, and then having to endure the results for years and years...often forgoing normal sexuality, their families, their friends for years or decades...

I think  those consent forms that the governemnt was going to force Art to use were a brilliant idea.

GregFL:

--- Quote --- & you still seem to have a great sense of humor.  

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Lauderdale is gifted or cursed with the same sense of humor I have. That is, people either think your funny or offensive..no middle ground. Also, people also mistake attempts at humor for attacks.

In my progressing age, I have been working on trying to understand how other people take this "trait" of mine and modifying it for the sake of everyone!  Especially me.

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