Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Concern for a "student"
Deborah:
First you need to broaden the temp range to maybe -20 and 110. What would you take if you were going to live in those conditions for 3 - 6 months?
The least they should be required to do is own their own land, so they can provide a base camp with cabins. They could hike them all day but sleep them at base where they'd have adequate protection from extreme weather conditions as well as the opportunity for proper hygiene.
It's cheaper to hike them on government land, in the back 40 which makes rescues difficult and time consuming, and doesn't allow for permanent structures to be erected.
Antigen:
There's another aspect to this, though. The profits in this industry are artificially high because they enjoy an unfair and inequitable advantage. They are not held to the same standards of accountability as the rest of society.
Even when they kill a kid, it's very rare for anyone to even be criminally charged, far less convicted, never mind properly served w/ a punishment that fits the crime. When Charles Long the II gets out of prison in a couple of short years (assuming the other inmates don't find out that he's a child abuser and put him out of our missery) Anthony Haynes will still be quite dead.
The troubled parent industry has invested substantially in public policy and advertising for several decades now. So they're not exposed to a truely free market. I think that if we were truely playing on a level playing field, this industry would not survive, or at least it wouldn't look anything like it does today. So how do we reverse this?
To regard Christ as God, and to pray to him, are to my mind the greatest possible sacrilege.
--Leo Tolstoy, Russian revolutionary
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-15 11:05:00, Deborah wrote:
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First you need to broaden the temp range to maybe -20 and 110. What would you take if you were going to live in those conditions for 3 - 6 months?
The least they should be required to do is own their own land, so they can provide a base camp with cabins. They could hike them all day but sleep them at base where they'd have adequate protection from extreme weather conditions as well as the opportunity for proper hygiene.
It's cheaper to hike them on government land, in the back 40 which makes rescues difficult and time consuming, and doesn't allow for permanent structures to be erected.
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OK, so broaden temp range. Im guessing it pretty rare that youre out in -20F. I live in Minnesota and the last few years there havent been many days that cold. I believe there are programs out there that set up base camps. Canvas yurts with wood stoves so the students arent setting up tents/tarps every night.
I agree with your point about land ownership. Repeat users in desert areas definately leave their mark. But so do the thousands of head of cattle that are grazed on public lands.
A group can set up a temporary shelter on BLM land and I think maybe they can on forest service land too but Im not positive.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-15 09:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
"They don't have tents- at least not in most programs. They earn tarps. You need a lot of gear when it is 0 degrees! They have clothes, sleeping bags, eating utensils, fire starting kit (that they make themselves).
Dysfunction- you are so amazingly ignorant and off-base. Do you really think you know all the parents who are posting here? Please go back into treatment and stop being an asshole."
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sounds like you're doing a little projection here, parent. mostly it's you who's acted like an asshole and seem to need some treatment.
maybe your program can help you stop projecting and own your behavior. you need it. ::bangin::
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-15 09:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Dysfunctional- You have absolutely no idea what kind of parents anyone who posts on these boards might be. Your anger and hatred colors your judgement so completely that you are making a total fool out of yourself. It is a shame that you continue to ruin whatever constructive dialogue might occur on this forum.
Look, we are all sorry that you are a failure and that your criminal record haunts you. We're sorry you are lonely and sad. But why the angry attacks on parents? Do you honestly think these people, who are most likely nowhere near this board anymore, care what your opinion of them might be?
I wish Ginger would talk to you privately, because you are really ruining the intent of this website."
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i can't handle my own problems! ginger! quick, censor the site! i need homogeneity quick!
wah wah wah :cry2:
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