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Note to John Underwood
Anonymous:
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Ft. Lauderdale:
Hey Wtaylor,
I hadn't seen Julio in about 15 or 20 years. He asked me to his Fire Academy Graduation. (He remembered my dad was a firefighter.) He'd been to college years before, divorced with 3 kids. He became a firefighter/paramedic. He loves it.
They put on this big type of rescue, climb a building graduation show with alot of other physical activities.
There he was 37yrs old doing all this with 20 yr olds. You'd never recognize him, he's like joe bodybuilder. Hes no skinny kid anymore.
Just thought you might want to know that.
wtaylorg:
Hi TK, Cleveland
I'm really glad to hear about Julio. I was always close to him and I'm very happy for his success.
Can you fill me in on Joe M? If you can? A very nice guy who I saw being taken advantage of down there
Clev: I don't want you to fill bad about telling me the truth back then. I was glad you cared enough about me to give me your perspective. In fact I left your apartment that night knowing I had to close that chapter. It appears that those of us who were on the outside looking in really didn't have any "real" idea how we were viewed by the "chosen" ones. I just am so lucky that I made it out of there when I did and that I choose to stay away.
Not as if they would have wanted me back.
I remember receiving aletter sent to my parents from the Seed around '87? And in it Shelly explained that the Seed was changing from an adolescent to an adult only program.
They also implied because the Seed had done so much for me that I should reciprocate with a monetary gift.
At that time, That made me smile because the Seed was the last place I would ever send money too. I had already started to work in my field as an intern so I guess I could have sent something, but it felt better to throw the letter away.
I know many here debate the pros and cons o fthe Seed expereince. A lot of great stuff is written. All I can really do is share My experiences and recollections. That's all I have.
While I was finishing high school in Clev. I remember watching so many of the Clev. kids move down there and then have their problems with fitting in (Rob M) and making it at the Seed. I used to think Why? At that time I was getting good enough grades in HS to apply for several good schools. But, I was lead to believe a life at the Seed in FL was the best use of my ability.
How wrong was that? My abilties were never in the area of "rapping" or being and egoist.
So I sold my myself short.
I remember sitting in group and thinking if I left could I make enough money to have an apartment and a TV. I didn't have big dreams for myself.
For every staff member and "insider" there were a dozen of us just trying to understand what was happening each day.
W
Ft. Lauderdale:
WTaylor,
Check the private messages & I'll fill you in on Joe M.
wtaylorg:
TK: check your private messages.
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