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Note to John Underwood
Antigen:
Oh, one other detail while I'm getting old hostility off my chest. Can anyone explain why my brothers were not allowed to talk to me when they went in? I was 6 at the time. I swear, I'd never done drugs w/ them or even talked about it. How come I couldn't have at least a phone call w/ either one of them? How could I possibly have been dangerous to their "sobriety"?
There's a reason. I understand it pretty well. Do you?
God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.
--Voltaire (1694-1778)
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Antigen:
Anybody?
Another example of the method. How come it had to be a secret where newcomers were living? Why couldn't my mom just walk up to any of my brother or sister's foster parents and ask if they were sleeping ok, if that rash had gone away, etc.? Do any of you Seed supporters understand why it was so vitally important to keep the newcomer completely isolated from everyone and everything they ever knew, up to and including clergy?
If God has spoken, why is the world not convinced?
--Percy Bysshe Shelley, English poet
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Anonymous:
Antigen, I swear you have issues. You sound like that 6yr old still. I think thats the problem. You never did get it. Didn't you ever get along with your brothers once they went home?????
There's shit missing from your story. All I hear( and I mean this ) is a pissed off kid that wants her family. Damn my family was totally fu--ed up but somehow we managed to pull it together. It sounds to me like your family was messed up long before the seed. (I'm sure you'll fight me on this one.) My father never stepped foot in the Seed. My parents were together. My dad was a drunk for years. My mother was in and out of nut houses when I was young. Believe it or not we all turned out fine. My dad did eventually go to AA, was sober for 25 yrs before he died. My sister went through the Seed ( was involved for about a year totally) never stepped foot in the doors again. She has a glass of wine ocassionally. I don't , but her life works for her. My mom ended up off all medications and is actually happy today. Sure one of my brothers is a Baptist Minister (talk about extremes) We were raised catholic. But we all get along ...because we want to. We work at it ...
I'm sorry that you and Greg had it fucked up with your family situations. Maybe the Seed was part to blame( OH Oh I said it) but you can fix it I did....and not with the help of JESUS CHRIST or any novenas, or the seed for that matter. just because I wanted to make it work. Sure I'm divorced and that didn't work-but hell my life's not over yet.
Antigen:
Thanks for the free (and unsolicited) psych dx.
Now, back to the point, do you understand the reasons why newcomers were not permitted any contact whatsoever w/ anyone they had ever known, including family, clergy, their own pediatrician, etc.?
Do you know the answer or don't you?
The present system is among the most impractical imaginable, if the facilitation of learning is your aim.
--Neil Postman and Charles Weingartner
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Anonymous:
Yes I do,!!!!!!!!!!!
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