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Some insight(s)
Stripe:
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Robin Martin:
John Underwood,YOU ROCK! Always did and still do!
:nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: ::kiss::
Anonymous:
I note the genuflecting of the above-post with a wicked snicker. :lol:
Stripe:
Mr. Underwood:
YOU WROTE: The inability (or unwillingness) to separate personalities and methodology from what The Seed offered was never a problem for me, I was lucky I guess. I got it from day one when I was still in the front row with the cotton in my mouth.
I REPLY: I read your comment here and I wonder whether you really got it or you just succumbed to the pressure and ate up the dogma much more quickly than the arrogant, self-centered, disrespectful, inconsiderate children who made up the majority of the seed?s population. I think perhaps it?s the latter.
YOU WROTE: I am not omnipotent, nor was anyone I worked with. Despite popular belief, we did not know everything that occurred away from The Seed.
I REPLY: I?m not so sure you know the meaning of the words you use and it makes a great difference. Don?t you mean ?omniscient? ? as in knowing what you were doing? As in knowing that you were charged with the responsibility for the safekeeping of hundreds of children and teenagers? As in knowing, from your own personal experience, that perhaps the seed was not all goodness and light?
YOU WROTE: Personally, I had no problem coming down on those whose disruptive personalities were defined by arrogance, self-centeredness, lack of respect and consideration of others. I had a very low tolerance for self-indulgent, immature, unnecessary and inappropriate behavior. That hasn?t changed. Stupidity always carries a consequence.
I REPLY: I too, see that nothing much has changed. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the program you espoused, in some cases, was wrong and that is why people responded with what you claim was ?stupid? behavior? That perhaps you were simply a cog in the money-wheel machine of a drug rehab business and it was really only about the money? Could you have been so blinded by a dogma you needed to believe in that you could not to see it? So blind and stupid that you would not or could not to see that some of the children there were not addicted to anything? Yes, John, stupidity does have consequences, doesn?t it? I think you can read these message boards here and see the consequences of what some independent professionals in the psychiatric and medical field would deem the seed?s stupid behavior.
YOU WROTE: I wrote earlier of my initial disdain so I will close by commenting on the characterizations used by some to relate The Seed experience.
I REPLY: I see now, again by your own choice of words, this time the word ?disdain,? that you really do believe that you are above it all. Then and now. But I?ll venture to guess it?s a protection mechanism that works well for you. But it?s old, so loose it and really embrace the self-honesty you claim to live by.
Mr. Underwood, even acknowledging that some say you did good work at the seed, I am glad that I did not listen to you. My internal sense of danger operated well and I was able to protect myself from you and the others like you. It would have been a pity to have wasted my life following the premises of one who is so undoubtedly and obviously single-sighted and yes, to use your lexicon, stupid. You and the others at the seed who terrorized members with the likes of your derisive mumbo-jumbo were the boogie men in my closet. But the really great thing about your appearance here is that your comments turned on the light and KAPOW!! No more boogie men. How freaking cool is that?
You are just a regular guy, just as happy, sad and full of shit as rest of us - struggling to get by and stretching to embrace the entirety of our lives, the good and bad.
Have a nice life, John Underwood. Thanks for putting yourself out there. You never knew me and we never had the pleasure of a personal introduction. We may always disagree in principle but you have helped me to close the door on a chapter of my life that has long needed closing.
TRUCKER:
John Underwood,
Thanks for caring ! It made a difference for me.
TRUCKER
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