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Anonymous:
To Ben's dad
The previous post to Dysfunctional was mine. Wanted to clarify that I'm not saying that therapy is bad---or that a therapist cannot be an integral part of a program.
What I'm saying is that for some kids (mine was one) what they really need is something more akin to life coaching than a medicalized psychological intervention. Obviously a therapist can be part of either process.
And in terms of life experiences and self development a therapist can be part of that too but so can other involved adults.
Many of the counsellors in my child's school had no psychology degree but much of what they did was growth promoting and contributory to good psychological health.
My point was that in these schools and programs it is not necessary for one-on-one psychotherapy on a daily basis or something like that: I think that as needed, there should be available time with trained psychologists. But some kids are going to need much more professional intervention than others.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-05 11:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Title: Two Years Later: A Qualitative Assessment of Youth Well-Being and the Role of Aftercare in Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Treatment.
Author(s): Russell, Keith C., University of New Hampshire, Durham, NH, US
Address: Russell, Keith C., University of New Hampshire, Durham, NH, US
Source: Child & Youth Care Forum, Vol 34(3), Jun 2005. pp. 209-239.
Journal URL: http://www.springeronline.com/sgw/cda/f ... eader=true
Publisher: Germany: Springer
Publisher URL: http://www.springeronline.com
ISSN: 1053-1890 (Print)
Digital Object Identifier: 10.1007/s10566-005-3470-7
Language: English
Keywords: youth well being; aftercare role; outdoor behavioral healthcare treatment
Abstract: This study evaluated youth well-being 24-months after the conclusion of outdoor behavioral healthcare (OBH) treatment and explored how youth transition to a variety of post-treatment settings. OBH treatment involves integrating clinical treatment approaches with wilderness expeditions that average over 50 days. Transition from OBH treatment often requires that youth and family utilize aftercare services, which are typically: (a) outpatient services, which are comprised of individualized, group or family therapy, or (b) residential services, which are comprised of residential treatment centers, therapeutic boarding schools, and others. The results suggest that 80% of parents and 95% of youths perceived OBH treatment as effective, the majority of clients were doing well in school, and family communication had improved. Aftercare was utilized by 85% of the youths and was perceived as a crucial component in facilitating the transition from an intensive wilderness experience to family, peer and school environments. Results also indicated that many continued to use alcohol and/or drugs to varying degrees, had legal problems, and still had issues forming friendships with peers. OBH treatment was perceived as being a necessary and effective step in helping youths address, and eventually overcome, emotional and psychological issues that were driving destructive behavior prior to OBH treatment. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2005 APA, all rights reserved)(journal abstract)
Subjects: *Aftercare; *Health Care Psychology; *Well Being
Classification: Health & Mental Health Services (3370)
Population: Human (10)
Male (30)
Female (40)
Age Group: Adolescence (13-17 yrs) (200)
Adulthood (18 yrs & older) (300)
Tests & Measures: Youth-Outcome Questionnaire
Form/Content Type: Empirical Study (0800)
Followup Study (0840)
Qualitative Study (0880)
Journal Article (2400)
Publication Type: Peer Reviewed Journal (270); Electronic
Format(s) Available: Print; Electronic
Release Date: 20050531
Accession Number: 2005-04985-003
Number of Citations in Source: 28
Persistent link to this record: http://search.epnet.com/login.aspx?dire ... -04985-003
Database: PsycINFO
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--- End quote ---
I'm not sure what your point is here.
Anyone with a scintilla of knowledge about scientific method knows this is not a scientific study. It's an opinion poll, nothing more, nothing less.
Furthermore, I would submit that both the parents (spent a ton of money and need to believe it was well-spent, can't otherwise justify sending their kid away) and kids (fear that they'll be sent back) have vested interest in reporting a positive outcome.
Show me a quantitative longitudinal study and we'll talk (diagnosis/severity before and after treatment).
What you've shown is a marketing tool, not a study.
Check this out:
http://www.unh.edu/outdoor-education/Keithbio.html
Dr. Russell is in the business of "Outdoor Rehabilitation" and is a program designer.
Do you think he has just a little bit of interest in seeing the numbers work out?
Geez, at least you could find some research from someone OTHER THAN A PROGRAMMIE. What little credibility you had before is gone...
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"Compassion is the basis of morality"
-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-08-05 12:39 ]
Anonymous:
INDEPENDENT STUDIES NEED TO BE DONE ...
These studies by the industry are not reliable.
The DEATHS prove wilderness therapy is unsafe.
Notice how nobody wants to talk about the deaths or can even remember how many kids have died?
That's because there is no national clearinghouse that tracks this info.
None of the kids who died would have died if they weren't abused and/or neglected. That's a fact.
Anonymous:
I agree- the peer accountability (when it worked well) was as important as the formal therapy. My son had a lot of trouble showing emotion and weakness, and one valuable tool he came home with was how to do both.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-05 12:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My son's wilderness therapist was actually very present in his program. He was one of the founders of the program and a licensed psychologist. He saw the kids two days (back to back) a week and spent an hour on the phone with us (the parents). He was quite gifted. He had an assistant who was also a licensed psychologist. My son related well to both men once he got over his anger at being in wilderness in the first place.
The junior staff to which I refer at the TBS are actually also psychologists. I'm not talking about the couple of babysitter-types who are on staff. I'm talking about the actual therapists who lead groups and work one on one with the kids. This is the front-line, but it is frequently the upper management who thinks they know better.....
I really think wilderness is a different animal from TBS. For one thing, there is no school going on. At my son's TBS (and another thing with which some of us took issue) holding the kids out of class was a means of punishment. This served to put them behind in their work and affected their grades. Most of these kids were pretty solid students heading for good colleges, and it seemed stupid. Wilderness is very intense and eliminates many of the distractions of day to day living. Of course, the TBS eliminates many as well, but not as many as wilderness.
Ben's Dad"
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I'd be really interested in seeing any program where "junior staff" are "psychologists." I've never seen that.
Having a BA in psychology doesn't make someone a psychologist. You're saying that all the junior staff were MA level or higher and state licensed as psychologists?
That's a highly dubious claim. At least name the program so I can see for myself.
Please don't give some lame excuse about keeping your identity safe. I don't care who you are, nor do I seek to find out. But what you have said above amounts to what is an obvious "whopper."
Either you're misinformed or you were lied to by the facility. You'll have to show some evidence, as this is simply UNHEARD OF in the industry...
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