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« on: July 20, 2005, 06:05:00 PM »
Fornits is wonderful but it is kinda like preaching to the choir (and a congregation of Satanists).  We all know the issues and the battle lines are already drawn.

If we want to get the word out perhaps we should also post on message boards that everyday folks visit.  There isn't an official ABC Brat Camp message board but the old ABC Family one is still there:

http://forums.go.com/forums/abcfamily/f ... hread=true

And there is one here too:

http://ctvbb.insinc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=67

They are both quite quiet at the moment.  Let's change that!
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2005, 06:50:00 PM »
Here, here! Especially those of you w/ firsthand info/exp. with the featured program and/or very similar ones.

When we talk to god, it's prayer. When god talks to us, it's schizophrenia.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2005, 08:45:00 AM »
For those interested, there is another forum discussing Brat Camp and apparently Lauren from Brat Camp is a poster (only one post).

http://www.sociopranos.com/forums/threa ... &start=376

She is going by FireFox0405.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2005, 12:08:00 PM »
ONE Post? Smells like a troll.

Also, just how much do you expect to get out of talking to her? Shes thuroughly indoctrinated and more than likely facing punishment out the ass if she says badly of the program - and she and/or her mom are probably paid off by the producers  :wink:

They never got to the heart of me because they assumed from the beginning they knew me.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=9403&forum=38#99484' target='_new'>To each her own, Anonymous

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2005, 08:34:00 PM »
I really do try to talk to other people about programs. But I get so intense I guess, or it is just so shocking and disturbing to the listener, I never finish the story. My question is, not how do you find people to listen, but who are the people that you actually need listening to you?
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2005, 09:08:00 AM »
They still don't have an official Brat Camp forum so someone has started an off-topic thread on Desperate Housewives:

http://forums.go.com/abc/thread?threadI ... umStart=30
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2005, 10:03:00 AM »
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On 2005-08-02 17:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I really do try to talk to other people about programs. But I get so intense I guess, or it is just so shocking and disturbing to the listener, I never finish the story. My question is, not how do you find people to listen, but who are the people that you actually need listening to you?"


My guess is that the story is too intense for most people. I'd suggest you write it down and then hang it out there anywhere it's welcome. This forum, of course, is always good. Charlie King's tbfight.com is good. I think that some of the ideas underpinning the industry have become so well entrenched it's going to be awhile before a significant number of our neighbors take it seriously as an issue that effects them.

And that really is the key to your second question; who should you tell. Tell anyone who's effected by it (though I like the passive method better; keep it politely to sites and company where it's wanted and let interested parties drop in voluntarily)

I'll tell ya', I really had no interest at all in wrapping my mind up in this stuff for a good many years. I knew The Seed was still there in Ft. Laud, but it was just a weird little cult, not a big problem except to those few who hung around. I thought Straight was shut down and gone and I didn't even know the WWASP type programs existed til 48 Hours did a piece on them a few years ago. I got interested when I realized that this industry was garnering legal authority and community support that might effect my kids and grandkids; when I saw that my ox was being gored.

The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us, and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic.
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