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Its just a way to numb the ideology into the norm

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SyN:
All this show does is numb parents into beleiving this form of therapy is ok.  Though as an elan escapee i would take brat camp any day over what I went through.those kids dont know the programs they could be in.  
Its still a cop out.
Mike

Nihilanthic:
SyN, its not even therapy. Its just P.C. - spun techniques and situations used to cause psychologial regression and breakdowns so theyre weakened, and you can implant whatever dogma you want. Plus, while weakened its so easy to make them disclose ALL their personal shit... just like that poor girl did on 'brat camp' today.

It all fits brainwashing or interrogation to a "T", anyway... Im really disappointed that more therapists dont say anything about it.
To the extent that a society limits its government to policing functions which curb the individuals who engage in aggressive and criminal actions, and conducts its economic affairs on the basis of free and willing exchange, to that extent domestic peace prevails. When a society departs from this norm, its governing class begins, in effect, to make war upon the rest of the nation. A situation is created in which everyone is victimized by everyone else under the fiction of each living at the expense of all.

--Edmund A. Opitz
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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-07-30 02:41:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

"SyN, its not even therapy. Its just P.C. - spun techniques and situations used to cause psychologial regression and breakdowns so theyre weakened, and you can implant whatever dogma you want. Plus, while weakened its so easy to make them disclose ALL their personal shit... just like that poor girl did on 'brat camp' today.



It all fits brainwashing or interrogation to a "T", anyway... Im really disappointed that more therapists dont say anything about it.
To the extent that a society limits its government to policing functions which curb the individuals who engage in aggressive and criminal actions, and conducts its economic affairs on the basis of free and willing exchange, to that extent domestic peace prevails. When a society departs from this norm, its governing class begins, in effect, to make war upon the rest of the nation. A situation is created in which everyone is victimized by everyone else under the fiction of each living at the expense of all.

--Edmund A. Opitz
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I find it to be the same as therapy. just done more loosly then most troubling teen programs.  though when they got the tv deal i am sure they toned down the program a bit.  They start with hygene and morning duties; go out and do their challenges i.e long hikes rapelling ect.  Then during or after their meal they sit in a circle and confront and relate.  Granted not nearly as much as elan daytop or Straight. But they wouldnt give those programs an hour of prime time tv.  Not yet any way.  elan knew how to weakin you without a 7 mile hike, different methods same madness only brat camp is run by hippies and mine was run by deeply disturbed back woods Mainers.  
How bout that Phantom Duker episode.  Didnt that crack you up?

SyN:
oops thought i was signed in.
Mike

Antigen:
Mike, these days the kids don't get wilderness OR a TBS. They get both. The wilderness is just to soften them up. Somewhat more effective than just a midnight kidnapping, eh?
who needs regular piss tests more than a former blowski who has his finger on the button?
--Chuck Beyer
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